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23 Jun 23
24 Jun 23
@AThousandYoung
I am still waiting for the motive for Russia to bomb their own fighting force. All I have heard so far is that there were "tensions" between them. Nothing specific.
It seems like the bombing came from the rear so he assumed it was Russia betraying them. What if the CIA heard of the tensions and bombed them from the rear? A high flying jet could drop cruise missiles to do that. I am not saying I know that is what happened, but it seems possible.
If Russia did do it then the tensions must have been pretty intense. Why is nobody talking about these "tensions"?
24 Jun 23
@sonhouse saidStop lying. I did not blame anybody.
@Metal-Brain
Leave it up to you to blame the US. If figures Comrade.
All I did was point out the possibilities.
Prigozhin obviously blames Sergei Shoigu. But what was said? Nobody seems to want to talk about it. I would imagine that the Russian people are wondering the same thing.
24 Jun 23
@AThousandYoung
Putin claimed it was excessive ambitions and personal interests that resulted in this betrayal of the country and its people. I find that hard to believe. Prigozhin must be really angry to say what he did and risk death.
The Russian government claimed the missile strikes were staged. I find that hard to believe as well.
24 Jun 23
@athousandyoung saidaww i wanted to start this thread but I sleep late on saturdays and i only found out
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/wagner-chief-declares-war-on-putin-after-russia-launches-missile-strike-on-his-troops/ar-AA1cX3TG
https://abcnews.go.com/International/wagner-mercenary-chief-calls-armed-rebellion-russian-military/story?id=100335756
24 Jun 23
@metal-brain said"I am still waiting for the motive for Russia to bomb their own fighting force."
@AThousandYoung
I am still waiting for the motive for Russia to bomb their own fighting force. All I have heard so far is that there were "tensions" between them. Nothing specific.
It seems like the bombing came from the rear so he assumed it was Russia betraying them. What if the CIA heard of the tensions and bombed them from the rear? A high flying jet could drop cr ...[text shortened]... do it then the tensions must have been pretty intense. Why is nobody talking about these "tensions"?
Incompetence, ya ding dong. What has given you the impression Putin and his bootlickers are master planners.
Whenever you don't have definitive proof you follow Occam's razor principle, nobody but you conspiracy theorists go straight for the most complicated and outlandish scenario
@metal-brain saidWhat if Romania did it. We are still looking for payback towards Russia and what better chance than now to take one of our two jets, deal a massive strike against the ruskies when nobody was looking then sit quietly while the russians devolve into civil war. It's the perfect crime, who would even suspect us. Except me, but I am more special than anyone else, i can see things others can't
Stop lying. I did not blame anybody.
All I did was point out the possibilities.
Prigozhin obviously blames Sergei Shoigu. But what was said? Nobody seems to want to talk about it. I would imagine that the Russian people are wondering the same thing.
I am not saying it happened, I am merely "pointing out the possibilities"
24 Jun 23
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@metal-brain saidThe Wagner leader has been slagging off the military leaders like shoigin for months, hard to know how much wider suppotrt he has in the military, this could be a full on civil war brewing but I doubt it, win or lose Putin’s old bestie has put anther roller skate on them big red stairs for him.
@AThousandYoung
I am still waiting for the motive for Russia to bomb their own fighting force. All I have heard so far is that there were "tensions" between them. Nothing specific.
It seems like the bombing came from the rear so he assumed it was Russia betraying them. What if the CIA heard of the tensions and bombed them from the rear? A high flying jet could drop cr ...[text shortened]... do it then the tensions must have been pretty intense. Why is nobody talking about these "tensions"?
24 Jun 23
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@zahlanzi saidIt was two hours after the Wagner leader declared war on the high command and told the truth about the Ukrainian invasion being pointless and counterproductive. He blames the same high command that has mismanaged the war for starting it in a bid to gain status and glory within Russia.
"I am still waiting for the motive for Russia to bomb their own fighting force."
Incompetence, ya ding dong. What has given you the impression Putin and his bootlickers are master planners.
Whenever you don't have definitive proof you follow Occam's razor principle, nobody but you conspiracy theorists go straight for the most complicated and outlandish scenario