Debates
10 Mar 05
10 Mar 05
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Originally posted by sasquatch672I think you have written a very thoughful, optimistic, and sincere post there sasquatch. Well done. I give a rec to you and your big feet.
People are lauding the creation of the spirituality forum as a mark of progress for the site, because finally those holy rollers have a place of their own and they can go off and be by themselves. I disagree. I think we lost somethin ...[text shortened]... But the discussions here have become watered down and homogenized.
Unfortunately the implementation of the main idea behind your post hinges upon one sentence. One small but very important sentence. And so far humanity has not shown itself capable of fulfilling the two goals in that sentence.
"I think that we should all learn to get along and be more respectful of each other."
That will never happen. And the fact that it will never happen is one of the reasons why we have a god forum.
But again, a very nice post.
10 Mar 05
Originally posted by sasquatch672I disagree with your premise; RBHILL or anyone else can enter a discussion on an issue and give a Christian perspective so long as it's relevant to the discussion. What isn't allowed is the off-topic preaching in these threads that was getting to be an epidemic before the Spirituality Forum was created. It's clearly working well, so I think it's better for everybody.
Thank you. Just like anything else, it may take some sorting through discussions to find some pearls, but they're there. We shouldn't ignore people just because we disagree with them.
10 Mar 05
Originally posted by no1marauder
I disagree with your premise; RBHILL or anyone else can enter a discussion on an issue and give a Christian perspective so long as it's relevant to the discussion. What isn't allowed is the off-topic preaching in these threads that was getting to be an epidemic before the Spirituality Forum was created. It's clearly working well, so I think it's better for everybody.
..... and of course you no1 decide whether it is relevant or not and if you decided it is not you think you have the privilege of degrading, insulting and ridiculing the debater in question.
10 Mar 05
Originally posted by ivanhoeOf course, same as you, Ivanhoe except you do that when the poster is making relevant points if you have a personal dislike for them.
..... and of course you no1 decide whether it is relevant or not and if you decided it is not you think you have the privilege of degrading, insulting and ridiculing the debater in question.
10 Mar 05
Originally posted by ivanhoeI have no idea of what you are talking about; I do not believe that I have any special "privileges" on RHP that every other poster doesn't enjoy as well. What you really don't like about me is that I don't share your extremist political views and am vocal about saying so. That's really why you want me banned, ain't it, Ivanhoe?
I do dislike your methods, your big mouth and your stance of annexing privileges you do not grant others.
10 Mar 05
Now, now Ivanho and Moorauder, don't make me separate you two. Moorauder may be a Forum Nazi/Lawyer, but, Ivanhoe you've got a penchant for the pretentious that just won't stop. Dorfius is one of the fun police though.... sad really.
Sassy has a point, the debates forum is sort of tame without having one of you at Dorfius's throat all the time. I'd propose a cage match... with clubs.. spiked clubs... make that chainsaws...
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10 Mar 05
Originally posted by no1marauder
I have no idea of what you are talking about; I do not believe that I have any special "privileges" on RHP that every other poster doesn't enjoy as well. What you really don't like about me is that I don't share your extremist political views and am vocal about saying so. That's really why you want me banned, ain't it, Ivanhoe?
No, these are not the reasons and you know that No1. If you call my political views extreme then most of the United Nations policies are extreme. It is in fact too ridiculous for words. I've explained it many times. Please don't claim you don't know what I'm talking about. It sounds a bit too hollow in my ears .......
10 Mar 05
Originally posted by ivanhoeWhat "privileges" do I have at RHP that every other Forum user doesn't?
No, these are not the reasons and you know that No1. If you call my political views extreme then most of the United Nations policies are extreme. It is in fact too ridiculous for words. I've explained it many times. Please don't claim you don't know what I'm talking about. It sounds a bit too hollow in my ears .......
10 Mar 05
Originally posted by sasquatch672Gets my rec, SQ. Although I would hope that anyone is still free to present any doctrinal viewpoint as part of a general debate. I don't know about anyone else but "spirituality" and "religion" just don't mean quite the same thing to me. Maybe it's just me...
People are lauding the creation of the spirituality forum as a mark of progress for the site, because finally those holy rollers have a place of their own and they can go off and be by themselves. I disagree. I think we lost something when the new forum was created. There are alot of ideas out there, some good, some bad, and some just pure crackpot, ...[text shortened]... g louder than the other guy. But the discussions here have become watered down and homogenized.
11 Mar 05
Originally posted by sasquatch672There are two main concerns that have to be addressed:
People are lauding the creation of the spirituality forum as a mark of progress for the site, because finally those holy rollers have a place of their own and they can go off and be by themselves. I disagree. I think we lost something when the new forum was created. There are alot of ideas out there, some good, some bad, and some just pure crackpot, ...[text shortened]... g louder than the other guy. But the discussions here have become watered down and homogenized.
1. The religious crap-hola that tends to come into the debates forum.
Obviously my reference is subective enough to make perfectly clear that a debates forum should be based on argumentation and proof, not on biblical inclinations.
This first point justifies the spirituality forum.
No. I think some of the arguments there belong here, but as for the majority, it is a relief not to be burdened with religious speculation.
2. Personal attacks.
Maybe somewhat less now that religious ideas (as a generalisation) have been removed from this forum, but as this very thread proves, that is no guarantee that they won't happen.
It does beg the question: How interesting will the Debates forum be if we banned AND religion AND personal attacks?
11 Mar 05
Originally posted by sasquatch672I completely disagree. I celebrated the launch of the spirituality forum not because I wanted to escape from people I didn't agree with, but because those religious so-called debates were so profoundly dull. Teethgrindingly suicidally boring. Over the last week or so I've found myself getting drawn back into the debates forum once again, because there's actually discussions worth joining. And if I wanted for some bizarre reason to listen in on a bunch of extremists failing to understand one another, then it's not far to go.
People are lauding the creation of the spirituality forum as a mark of progress for the site, because finally those holy rollers have a place of their own and they can go off and be by themselves. I disagree. I think we lost something when the new forum was created. There are alot of ideas out there, some good, some bad, and some just pure crackpot, ...[text shortened]... g louder than the other guy. But the discussions here have become watered down and homogenized.
Rich.
11 Mar 05
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Originally posted by shavixmirGah, you are an idiot sometimes! Why do we have to attack each other to be interesting!? Damn you, and damn you all to hell.
There are two main concerns that have to be addressed:
1. The religious crap-hola that tends to come into the debates forum.
Obviously my reference is subective enough to make perfectly clear that a debates forum should be based on ...[text shortened]... bates forum be if we banned AND religion AND personal attacks?
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