What became of the celebration of Christmas?

A dear friend of mine (who is a writer of stories) told me that in America the day after Thanksgiving all the people are doing there Christmas shopping. Well in a large department store, people got into fights and trampled each other trying to get into the store to take advantage of a sale on laptop computers that only lasted one hour. People forgot that they were human. They turned into animals.

It made my friend so sad that he felt the need to write his feelings in a letter, as if it was coming from Jesus himself. I changed a few words because he used rather foul language, but I’m sure you will understand the message and I would like to hear your reaction to it.

Dear Human Race:
Okay, kids, it’s time to sit up and pay attention, because I’m starting to get pi**ed. It’s the day after Thanksgiving, and I noticed that some of you did some really f**k*d-up sh** today. You trample each other to get a good deal on a friggin’ laptop computer? You hurt each other because you can’t wait in line? What the HELL are you thinking?? It’s about CHRISTmas ! See, my name is right there, in the name of the holiday. It’s not even well hidden– it’s right
There. This is about MY F***ING BIRTHDAY Did I come to this planet as the Son of God, or as a shill for Sony? Give me a break

Sorry about all the foul language, but hey, that’s your own fault, too. It wasn’t me that first uttered the words “Jesus f***ing Christ ,” was it? Nope. That was YOU. But I’m cool with that. I’m the Son of God. I can change with the times.

But let’s get real here. I was brought to this place to take away your sins. My birth was a miracle unlike anything this planet has ever seen. I performed miracles– NOT because I wanted attention, or money, or adoration, but just because that’s what I was supposed to do. Healing the sick, water into wine, all of that– just part of a day in the life of a Messiah.

And what did I get for it? I got CRUCIFIED You have NO idea how much that hurts I died on the cross with some knucklehead trying to shove a vinegar-soaked rag into my mouth.

And what did I do? I CAME BACK Just so that you would know that the covenant still held true, that me and my dad weren’t welshing on our side of the bargain.

And what do you do? You hurt each other to get the last laptop computer.

You worry.

You argue with your loved ones.

You make my birthday a cause for stress and anxiety and financial instability.

You put yourself in debt in order to buy more than you did last year, so that no one will be disappointed on Christmas morning.

No one but me, that is.

Every year, I am more and more disappointed with all of you, because you forget why you’re doing all of this. You forget the first six letters of this holiday.

My birthday doesn’t belong in your schools. I know that p**ses some of you off, but that’s the way it is. Schools belong to the government, and let’s face it, kids– the government had me crucified.

My birthday doesn’t belong on your town commons and city plazas. Those are public places, and people pass who never believed in me, because they believe in their own gods/saviors/messiahs/what-have-yous. I love them as much as I love you. If you can’t handle that, you’re not really paying attention to me, are you?

My birthday belongs in the hearts of those who believe in me, and those who are willing to carry my word to the rest of the world. Celebrate in your own way. But if that celebration does not include love of something other than what can be bought in a store, I won’t be attending your party.

I may come back someday. I don’t want to have to bring a baseball bat with me to knock some sense into your heads. My father had something better in mind, and so do I.

You want to wish me a happy birthday? Find a way to bring a smile to the face of someone who never smiles. Find a way to feed someone who is always hungry. Find a way to reach out to someone who is always lonely.

Don’t spend money. Give your heart. It is the gift that my father gave you.
Love–
Jesus

Originally posted by lioness
A dear friend of mine (who is a writer of stories) told me that in America the day after Thanksgiving all the people are doing there Christmas shopping. Well in a large department store, people got into fights and trampled each other trying to get into the store to take advantage of a sale on laptop computers that only lasted one hour. People forgot that t ...[text shortened]... .

Don’t spend money. Give your heart. It is the gift that my father gave you.
Love–
Jesus

Originally posted by lioness
A dear friend of mine (who is a writer of stories) told me that in America the day after Thanksgiving all the people are doing there Christmas shopping. Well in a large department store, people got into fights and trampled each other trying to get into the store to take advantage of a sale on laptop computers that only lasted one hour. People forgot that t ...[text shortened]... .

Don’t spend money. Give your heart. It is the gift that my father gave you.
Love–
Jesus

Originally posted by lioness
This is about MY F***ING BIRTHDAY Did I come to this planet as the Son of God, or as a shill for Sony? Give me a break

Actually, 25 December has nothing to do with Jesus's birthday. The decision to have
this day assigned to the Nativity was an effort to placate various pagan religions so
they could continue to have a holiday but call it Christianity (that is, to get and keep
converts).

And what did I get for it? I got CRUCIFIED You have NO idea how much that hurts I died on the cross with some knucklehead trying to shove a vinegar-soaked rag into my mouth.

Actually, the reason that the rag was being shoved into His mouth was because it was
laced with something that was supposed to ease the pain or increase unconsciousness.
It was for relief.

Every year, I am more and more disappointed with all of you, because you forget why you’re doing all of this. You forget the first six letters of this holiday.

Let's not forget the last three letters 'mas' which means 'Christ's Mass.' How many
people celebrate Mass on Christmas? How many deny centuries of tradition and claim
that the Eucharist Rite is a 'Memorial' or 're-enactment' and nothing more? If your
friend is going to emphasize the first letters, let him not forget the last.

I may come back someday. I don’t want to have to bring a baseball bat with me to knock some sense into your heads. My father had something better in mind, and so do I.

Yes, see the last bit of St Matthew 25. This letter is totally lacking in that quality.

Love–
Jesus

Clearly a pseudonomynous forgery.

Nemesio

Just wait until the New Year's Day sale!

PS. Some of those "people" were probably on "house arrest" too.

PPSS. Actually, they were all only trying to get to the bathroom to go poopie because they had been standing in line so long! 🙂

Originally posted by lioness
A dear friend of mine (who is a writer of stories) told me that in America the day after Thanksgiving all the people are doing there Christmas shopping. Well in a large department store, people got into fights and trampled each other trying to get into the store to take advantage of a sale on laptop computers that only lasted one hour. People forgot that t ...[text shortened]... .

Don’t spend money. Give your heart. It is the gift that my father gave you.
Love–
Jesus

Originally posted by lioness
A dear friend of mine (who is a writer of stories) told me that in America the day after Thanksgiving all the people are doing there Christmas shopping. Well in a large department store, people got into fights and trampled each other trying to get into the store to take advantage of a sale on laptop computers that only lasted one hour. People forgot that t ...[text shortened]... .

Don’t spend money. Give your heart. It is the gift that my father gave you.
Love–
Jesus

Originally posted by chancremechanic
Nice letter, and screw the chuckleheads that posted their drivel before mine.

You know what is astounding? Your attitude. Keep the Christ in Christmas you say?
I say keep the Christ in the Christian. When you have this belittling attitude towards
anyone else, you shame Christ. If you even have the slightest clue about the Bible,
you'll know that Christians are expected to 'clothe themselves with Christ.' That means
that Christ is to inform your every action.

And I'm here to tell you, your post is all about you, you, you.

If you are a true American, you would never argue that Christmas belongs in the schools
because the Founding Fathers -- some 'good' Christians, some Deists -- had enough good
sense to realize that the separation of Church and State was in the best interest of
Religion. That's right: rather than perpetuate the religious persecution that their
forebears experienced in the Old Country, they recognized that keeping religion out of
the hands of the State -- who would twist it and turn it to their will and pervert it in the
process (like the RCC of the late Medieval period or the English Church in the late
Renaissance). -- is what kept religion pure.

If, through the State, you force people to acknowledge a religion it creates tension and
bias.

And, your foolish notion of 'majority rules' is just nonsense. There are more Roman
Catholics than any Protestant denomination in the USA. Would you be amenable to a
'Happy Immaculate Conception Day' or a 'Seven Sorrows of Mary Day?' What about
if the Church made it a Law that you couldn't eat meat on Fridays?

Your concepts are both the height of absurdity (for they reek of oppression) and run
contrary to that little waving American flag you pretend is your standard.

In truth, your post embraces attitudes more appropriate to 1930s Russia or 1940s Germany.

Nemesio

Nemesio puts it very eloquently, and I really have little to add.

I'm not Christian (although had a christian upbringing), and, seeing that I don't believe in JC / God, see little reason why I should be forced to celebrate it by being forced to take time off work, etc.

On the other hand, I really like the letter, and agree wholeheartedly with the sentiment. In the words of the ex-radio DJ's Mark and Lard, 'it's nice to be nice'.

Originally posted by Nemesio
Originally posted by chancremechanic
[b]Nice letter, and screw the chuckleheads that posted their drivel before mine.

You know what is astounding? Your attitude. Keep the Christ in Christmas you say?
I say keep the Christ in the Christian. When you have this belittling attitude towards
anyone else, you shame Christ. If you even have th ...[text shortened]... ruth, your post embraces attitudes more appropriate to 1930s Russia or 1940s Germany.

Nemesio[/b]

Originally posted by scottishinnz
Nemesio puts it very eloquently, and I really have little to add.

I'm not Christian (although had a christian upbringing), and, seeing that I don't believe in JC / God, see little reason why I should be forced to celebrate it by being forced to take time off work, etc.

On the other hand, I really like the letter, and agree wholeheartedly with the sentiment. In the words of the ex-radio DJ's Mark and Lard, 'it's nice to be nice'.

Originally posted by chancremechanic
I wouldn't mind Cathilics playing Bingo in lunchroom , or Muslims slapping each other with the Koran, or Hindus feeding Rats....all in fairness. That's where you fail to see the semblance. Plus, I've yet to say that I am a Christian, but I will stand up against Christian onslaught.

You know nothing about true Americans. How old are you, 12? I am 45 and remember when Christmas Holidays were the hightlights of winter, when it was great to be American, and we didn't have to worry about insulting some Muslim or other religious person.

LOL! Yes, Mister American Hero. I'm twelve and just got my first pube a few days
ago. Thank you for reminding me what it is to be a man: to parade my bigotted views
with pride.

Mr True American, you repeatedly demonstrate your inability to grasp the vision that
the Founding Fathers had for including a clause for the Separation of Church and State,
and your own attitude indicates why: you are all about insisting that the State validate
your religion. This is step 1 towards religious oppression.

I'll ask you again: Are you in favor of a 'Seven Sorrow of Mary Day' for a school holiday?
How about Happy Bikarami Samvat? If God belongs in the school, who is to say that
YOUR God is the one that should be there?

God belongs in the schools!! The reason why we are having so many school kids killing each other is because people like you want God/Christ out of every institution, probably even the home.

Way to bring out the strawman. You are the one who wants God out of institutions --
that is, any God that isn't YOUR God. You also want to throw out the Declaration of
Independence and the Constitution, because you want the State to sanction your brand
of insanity because you (think you) are in the majority.

When I was a child, I NEVER heard of children killing children (a prophesy in the Bible, by the way). I'm not trying to oppress anybody; if anybone's being repressed, it's Christians (another Bible prophesy for the end times).

Your ignorance of history is astounding. Children killing children is not a new concept.
It's as old as the codified Bible. Christians being 'repressed' (sic)? Yeah: that's really
new. Just because you didn't hear of it doesn't mean it didn't exist (in fact, no doubt,
you were shielded from it).

That "little" waving American flag happens to be my standard and the flag of YOUR country, so I ain't pretending to be anything but AMERICAN, but you're probably a recently arrived immigrant who scoffs at the notion of being an American...remember, thousands are buried under that "little waving flag".....Happy Holidays!!...is that more like it?🙄

That's right. It's my standard and when ignorant sots like yourself start saying that
it's American to have sacred Christmas elements in school, then you spit on the graves
of the Forefathers who died to make this country great.

It's morons like you, with complete ignorance of your own country's heritage and
fundamental ideology, which make America the laughing stock of the world (not to
mention your lack of knowledge about the fundamentals of Christianity, but I digress).

Nemesio

Originally posted by Nemesio
Originally posted by chancremechanic
[b]I wouldn't mind Cathilics playing Bingo in lunchroom , or Muslims slapping each other with the Koran, or Hindus feeding Rats....all in fairness. That's where you fail to see the semblance. Plus, I've yet to say that I am a Christian, but I will stand up against Christian onslaught.

You know not ...[text shortened]... ention your lack of knowledge about the fundamentals of Christianity, but I digress).

Nemesio

Originally posted by chancremechanic
I know about the Founding Fathers and therir desire to keep church out of government.

You say you know it, but you insist on the contrary. Brilliant!

I'm not asking the stae to validate Christianity, just to include Christmas in the winter holiday. No, I'm not in favor of making every student eat fish on Friday; have it available for Catholics though. God, in the form of the Christian, Muslim, and Hindu God belong in the school each acccording the students that worship Him. They could do plays to enlighten each other about their God....maybe resulting in less understanding opf each respective God...

So we should accommodate the diets of all religious practices? Should we make
peyote available in the lunch line, too? Should schools follow Kosher practices so
the Hassidics can feel 'included?'

Should we have the blood-letting rituals of the voodoo included in school plays?
The sacrificing of animals for ritual purity for Jews? A Feast of the Body and
Blood of Jesus Christ Mass so that people can learn about the True Presence?

Or, should we just follow what the wise Founding Fathers said and keep religion
a product of the homes and not have the government get involved.

children killing cjildren on the LEVEL it is today IS a new concept...where the hell have you been the last 40 years? Dye that pube purple for your New X-BOX generation.....

I'm not going to give you a history lesson. Do your own homework. Children have
been killing children since fathers have been putting spears in the hands of their sons.
The difference is that we have instant media today and so we find out about these
things that remained 'hush hush' in the past.

Nemesio

Originally posted by chancremechanic
Digress back to the cave you came out of in the cola mine of PA.