Originally posted by Ghanima AtreidesExactly. Men & women are different, but equal.
All right, men and women are different in many ways indeed. Of course they are. But as human beings, intelligent and with similar expectations of a good job and living -- I would say they are equal.
Just as 2 men or 2 women are different - they're still equal.
Originally posted by Ghanima AtreidesI would say it is impossible to measure whether two people (male or female or both the same) are equal. It depends on the criteria you choose. Certainly some people seem to be gifted with more than their fair share of positive things (good looks, intelligence, whatever) than others. I don't see any reason why there should be equality.
All right, men and women are different in many ways indeed. Of course they are. But as human beings, intelligent and with similar expectations of a good job and living -- I would say they are equal.
Originally posted by VargThat is not the kind of equality I was talking about. I meant that al people regardless of gender are regarded as equal when applying for a job for example. Or are both considered intelligent as a whole, even if of course, Albert Einstein was smarter than your average joe bringing you the newspaper every morning.
I would say it is impossible to measure whether two people (male or female or both the same) are equal. It depends on the criteria you choose. Certainly some people seem to be gifted with more than their fair share of positive things (good looks, intelligence, whatever) than others. I don't see any reason why there should be equality.
The level of their intelligence and other factors belonging solely to each person determine how they make use of all the opportunities ALL human beings should have --education, at the same level, for example.
Originally posted by Ghanima AtreidesWell equal rights is not the same as equal abilities.
That is not the kind of equality I was talking about. I meant that al people regardless of gender are regarded as equal when applying for a job for example. Or are both considered intelligent as a whole, even if of course, Albert Einstein was smarter than your average joe bringing you the newspaper every morning.
The level of their intelligence a ...[text shortened]... all the opportunities ALL human beings should have --education, at the same level, for example.
Originally posted by pcaspianIt's sad - but true.
Quite funny really. A politician and very successfull businessman recently stated that no small business owner would ever in his right mind choose to employ a woman of 'pragnable' age.
My wife is about 6 months pregnant now and has taken the last 3-4 off due to nausia. When she does go to work, she does limited work. If she had 1/2 the stress I have at m ...[text shortened]... . Had my wife worked for a small business, it would have impacted their business substantially. [/b]
A colleague of mine at work (an extremely ambitious lady) will be heading off on maternity leave late this year. By the time she returns next year, not only will she have to get into a new role (her current role being long back-filled by then) and learn the ropes again but, in all probability, any achievements she's had would probably be wiped out (in performance management terms) by then.
I guess mothers cannot be careerists (and vice-versa).
Originally posted by lucifershammerWell that's not completley true...my mother has had a full time job since she finished college and until now...regardless of my birth. And she sometimes works two shifts a day, during weekends, and leaves the country at times.
I guess mothers cannot be careerists (and vice-versa).
It can be done, if somebody is helping the woman with the child. That was my grandmother.
But I guess if you want to be a full time mother AND a careerist at the same time things get more difficult. Although I'm still not saying "impossible"
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Originally posted by Ghanima Atreides"It can be done, if somebody is helping the woman with the child. That was my grandmother."
Well that's not completley true...my mother has had a full time job since she finished college and until now...regardless of my birth. And she sometimes works two shifts a day, during weekends, and leaves the country at times.
...[text shortened]... get more difficult. Although I'm still not saying "impossible"
Didn't your grandmother had a full time job ?
Alright. I'm tired of people who I used to respect saying that men are better than women. Thats totally wrong. We both have equal rights. When it comes to strength and look ect ect ect women are better at some things and men have areas that they're better in too. Women are not put on this earth to clean the house, watch the kids, and please you guys. So stop. ðŸ˜