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@no1marauder saidOK...i'll bite. I swear on my great granny's gave that I did indeed cancel Netflix. But Marauder,in lib fashion, you make this personal? Do you know the phrase, 'For the sake of argument'''?' Thismeans that assuming the facts to be true (that I cancelled Netflix'😉, please tell me why there has to be a group, or a concept, called Cancel Culture, that purports to press their opinion of things they don't like UPON THE POPULACE? If you and your friends are independent, and you decide you dont like the play Hamilton, or Netflix, you would (Up to Now) just dont attend them or see them. But here in September 2020, If you dont like the Stones, you want no one else to like them. Absolutely amazing. So Marauder and his ilk craete a group or a concept to target people.
I realize you don't have any coherent message in any of your posts, BUT it does show that your claim that you, all by your lonesome, decided to cancel Netflix (which you're probably lying about anyway) was a bunch of hooey - you followed along like a good sheep.
You don't follow a "group"? Ha ha.
Is this not what Cancel Culture is? You say I am incoherent above. OK, how bout you answer this question coherently. If you and your friends dont like the movie FROZEN, why do you feel the need to make a mob broadcast about it? This is a REALLY simple question. This is an example of why I often say that we conservatives wish that you would leave us the hell alone.
@no1marauder saidAll due respects, I don't get this at all. More smoke. Why can you people not answer simple questions. Y0u sure typed a lot for nothing . C'mon Marauder, you can still save yourself, the day may not be lost.
Earl's link quotes Tom Fitton, President of Judicial Watch.
And the Daily Caller.
And Mary Margaret Olohan who writes for the Daily Caller and Daily Signal.
And Kyle Hooten who "has written for Alpha News, the Daily Caller, the Wall Street Journal, the College Fix, and Campus Reform. He has appeared on Fox & Friends, Fox's The Story with Martha MacCallum, Newsmax ...[text shortened]... ngton, Virginia.
There's a few others, but you get the idea: a bunch of right wing personalities.
@wolfgang59 saidIts like this poster, Marauder, You will agree that it is meaningless, makes no sense, and certainly does not refer to anything in this thread. Let it go, of course, but can you finally weigh in on why there has to be a cancel culture when people can simply, individually, independently, decide if they want something or not?
aka "Vote with your wallet"
aka "Consumer Power"
Nothing to do with your liberty. Panic over.
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@averagejoe1 saidThis is ridiculous; you did EXACTLY what you accuse others of doing i.e. responded to a social media boycott movement by being a good sheep and doing what you were told.
OK...i'll bite. I swear on my great granny's gave that I did indeed cancel Netflix. But Marauder,in lib fashion, you make this personal? Do you know the phrase, 'For the sake of argument'''?' Thismeans that assuming the facts to be true (that I cancelled Netflix'😉, please tell me why there has to be a group, or a concept, called Cancel Culture, that purports to press ...[text shortened]... is an example of why I often say that we conservatives wish that you would leave us the hell alone.
Is that clear enough for you?
I mean, IF it's only a personal decision, why are you babbling about it on an internet forum?
@averagejoe1 saidCancel Culture is when conservatives try to ban movies like Cuties.
I don’t even know what Woke is, and now the Mob throws this at us. Another thread here will not speak to my question, and my concerns, of having my freedom (of speech and everything else) andmy liberty encroached upon. Even lib Obama says Cancel Culture does that.
First , can someone please explain the tenets of cancel culture?
@no1marauder saidIs Cancel Culture actually that new?
"Cancel culture refers to the popular practice of withdrawing support for (canceling) public figures and companies after they have done or said something considered objectionable or offensive. Cancel culture is generally discussed as being performed on social media in the form of group shaming."
More than half a century ago, in 1966, John Lennon remarked that the Beatles were now "more popular that Jesus" and predicted that Christianity would vanish and shrink. His remarks coincided with the Beatles' American tour and led to major protests in the Bible Belt.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/More_popular_than_Jesus
"Lennon's comments incited protests and threats, particularly throughout the Bible Belt in the Southern United States. Some radio stations stopped playing Beatles songs, records were publicly burned, press conferences were cancelled, and the Ku Klux Klan picketed concerts."
No social media in those days, but was the response to Lennon's comments that different from what happens these days?
@averagejoe1 saidWhy do you guys always do this?
All due respects, I don't get this at all. More smoke. Why can you people not answer simple questions. Y0u sure typed a lot for nothing . C'mon Marauder, you can still save yourself, the day may not be lost.
You ask a question, then get an answer, and you say, "What? You have no answer, then?"
@teinosuke saidThe point some are making here is that this is mainly a conservative action, has always been a conservative M.O., and yet there are conservatives in this very thread, calling it a "liberal" action.
Is Cancel Culture actually that new?
More than half a century ago, in 1966, John Lennon remarked that the Beatles were now "more popular that Jesus" and predicted that Christianity would vanish and shrink. His remarks coincided with the Beatles' American tour and led to major protests in the Bible Belt.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/More_popular_than_Jesus
"Lennon' ...[text shortened]... n those days, but was the response to Lennon's comments that different from what happens these days?
@mott-the-hoople saidWell by your logic there is no such thing as ‘cancel culture’ just a disparate number of individuals expressing their opposition to an individual or organisation by withdrawing support from, or recognition of, them.
so there is no group?
Democracy and freedom of speech personified, so what’s Joes problem?
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@kevcvs57 saidWhat I think may be novel about the present situation is the willingness of companies to fold in response to this kind of opposition. For instance, there are cases where an unpublished book has been targeted for cancellation, and a publisher has responded by apologising and pulping the book. This is certainly not in keeping with norms of free speech and gives a vocal minority a dangerous veto over what can be said and who can say it. In the past, I think publishers would have stood by their authors.
Well by your logic there is no such thing as ‘cancel culture’ just a disparate number of individuals expressing their opposition to an individual or organisation by withdrawing support from, or recognition of, them.
Democracy and freedom of speech personified, so what’s Joes problem?
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@teinosuke saidThat’s a valid point and maybe that’s what ‘cancel culture’ is. Maybe the internet and social media have rendered ‘Publish and be damned’ into the much scarier ‘Publish and be devalued on the stock exchange’.
What I think may be novel about the present situation is the willingness of companies to fold in response to this kind of opposition. For instance, there are cases where an unpublished book has been targeted for cancellation, and a publisher has responded by apologising and pulping the book. This is certainly not in keeping with norms of free speech and gives a vocal minori ...[text shortened]... t can be said and who can say it. In the past, I think publishers would have stood by their authors.
I’d like to think that with publishing also being much easier and footloose the voices ignored by mainstream publishing houses will still be heard as long as there is even a small minority who will pay to hear them.
@suzianne saidCancel Culture is a conservative thing? Can you explain please, and please be factual, emotion is irrelevant.
The point some are making here is that this is mainly a conservative action, has always been a conservative M.O., and yet there are conservatives in this very thread, calling it a "liberal" action.
@averagejoe1 saidIt’s an everybody thing!
Cancel Culture is a conservative thing? Can you explain please, and please be factual, emotion is irrelevant.
It’s been enabled by the democratising effect of the internet clearly you think it’s a good thing when evangelical conservatives do it and a bad when socially liberal’s do it.
@kevcvs57 saidI am asking....why is there an entity, or a concept, of that which is called Cancel Culture.? Why does it exist? Read its definition, it has to do with imposing one's ideas on others, trying to influence others, in a combined effort of those who would do so. If Bill Smith does not like a play, he can elect to not go see it. But Cancel Culture has him and few friends targeting the play.
That’s a valid point and maybe that’s what ‘cancel culture’ is. Maybe the internet and social media have rendered ‘Publish and be damned’ into the much scarier ‘Publish and be devalued on the stock exchange’.
I’d like to think that with publishing also being much easier and footloose the voices ignored by mainstream publishing houses will still be heard as long as there is even a small minority who will pay to hear them.
I think this is a good analogy. Why infringe on the rights of other who choose for themselves to see the play.
I am not feigning confusion here, I would like for someone to tell us how individual freedom to do something has all of a sudden become targeted. Thank you.