Originally posted by Conrau KYes, but going through life seeing the correct spelling of 'grammar' and not making the connection that it is you that is in the wrong implies a lack of intelligence on your part that is astonishing in someone for whom language is so important.
"Grammar" seems to be the conventional word. But I don't really care about such an insignificant difference between the two spellings.
And I love your first sentence! I assume you mean 'conventional' as in 'correct'?
Originally posted by FrenchQueenBingo! Conrau K - read and learn. 😉
I think his point was that there should have been two clauses in your sentence. Your sentence was unfinished.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/While
PS: I have never seen the word grammar spelt "grammer"; actually my 13-year-old pupils sometimes use that spelling but then again they ain't talkin' propa.
Originally posted by FrenchQueenAgain, this is not a formal writing competition. I find it easier to read people's writing here, if they write the way they talk. In that sentence I needed a longer pause then a comma, so I used a full stop.
I think his point was that there should have been two clauses in your sentence. Your sentence was unfinished.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/While
PS: I have never seen the word grammar spelt "grammer"; actually my 13-year-old pupils sometimes use that spelling but then again they ain't talkin' propa.
Secondly, there is no shoulds or shouldn'ts in grammAr (i'll use your spelling if that pleases you). I often judge short story competitions and sometimes its better for people to abandon formal writing conventions. Certainly if I was judging an essay I would expect proper grammar except there are a few ecetnuating circumstances.
But as I said before, I don't care if its spelt with an 'e' or an 'a'. There's no important difference.
Originally posted by ivangriceHave you ever read A Clockwork Orange? It's certainly a classic. Its also in the language I love but that doesn't mean it has proper spelling or grammar. There are some 200 words invented and it's composed in a sort of English-Russian idiom. But would that make it incorrect? No, that would make it unconventional - but not incorrect.
Yes, but going through life seeing the correct spelling of 'grammar' and not making the connection that it is you that is in the wrong implies a lack of intelligence on your part that is astonishing in someone for whom language is so important.
And I love your first sentence! I assume you mean 'conventional' as in 'correct'?
As for a lack of intellgence, I known how to spell "contretemps", "obsequious" and "ennui", does that compensate?
I honestly have a text book that uses the word "grammer". I have often encountered the spelling "grammer" and have just assumed that the spelling alternates between the two.
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Originally posted by Conrau KI still think you don't know what sentence we're referring to. Please take a look at it:
Again, this is not a formal writing competition. I find it easier to read people's writing here, if they write the way they talk. In that sentence I needed a longer pause then a comma, so I used a full stop.
Secondly, there is no shoulds or shouldn'ts in grammAr (i'll use your spelling if that pleases you). I often judge short story competitions and som ...[text shortened]... fore, I don't care if its spelt with an 'e' or an 'a'. There's no important difference.
" Not necassarily, I'm sure there were reasons for abandoning the archaic pronuciation (probably to rid the extra syllable). While I agree that the language needs refinement (maybe we dont need the "gh' in night or knight) but to what extent and in what way? I would also be concerned that changing the spelling of words too much might render older literature indecipherable."
Your use of "while" is in this context is incorrect because your sentence is almost incomprehensible: it's hard trying to follow your reasoning here, that's all. Basically the word "while" is not necessary, it just makes the meaning of your paragraph confusing.
Try again without the "while" and it makes sense.
You probably didn't read your thread after posting, that's all, otherwise you would have seen this error; it happens to us all 😉
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Originally posted by Conrau KWhere are you from, if you don't mind me asking? Is English your first language? The reason I'm asking is that I have often seen English textbooks for speakers of other languages that contained spelling and grammAtical errors. It's not uncommon...
It wouldn't matter if I were wrong. It wasn't commenting on erroneous spelling but just for your information, my text book says "grammer".
I remember when I started learning English, my textbook had the word "glossary" spelt "glossairy" (it's glossaire in French) and it stuck with me for years !
Originally posted by Conrau KYou poor, poor victim. A bigger boy has come along and hijacked your thread and there was nothing you could do about it.
+Get over it! This thread wasn't intended as a diatribe towards people who left out the 'i' in intelligence. You just hijacked what could have been an interesting discussion.
And it could have been so *interesting*!
Life is so unfair sometimes, isn't it?
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Originally posted by ivangriceI'm not feigning the victim. I'm just telling you that you lost the thread of this thread, If you had read my first posts you would have realised that I was not commenting on poor spelling at RHP.
You poor, poor victim. A bigger boy has come along and hijacked your thread and there was nothing you could do about it.
And it could have been so *interesting*!
Life is so unfair sometimes, isn't it?
Originally posted by Conrau KI did read your first posts. In fact, in the very first you wrote: "Since the advent of the SMS boom, everyone seems to have abandoned conventional grammer and abolished spelling."
I'm not feigning the victim. I'm just telling you that you lost the thread of this thread, If you had read my first posts you would have realised that I was not commenting on poor spelling at RHP.
You then abandoned conventional grammar and made spelling mistake after spelling mistake in your posts. Which somewhat undermined your original point, don't you think?
I have simply had a little fun pointing this out.
Rather than me losing the thread, I think it's more a case of you losing the plot...