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@moonbus saidEven though I'm only one-fourth French by ancestry, I find this rather disappointing for personal and more broadly historical and cultural reasons, and think it unlikely that the "leader" himself could write the correct letters in the right order to spell his own name.
The group’s leader, Thomas Rousseau
@Earl-of-Trumps saidAnd you and idiots like you, claiming this, have been shouted down time and time again.
Yes, and something e;se was uncovered, too. From the text:
"One group invited to attend Duke’s birthday, for example, was a small, upstart National Socialist organization called
The New Way, according to a message the group’s founder posted on Telegram. That group positions itself as a successor to the Nazi regime."
How many times have we argued t ...[text shortened]...
Geee... you think there's a connection here...?, @Suzianne?, @sonhouse??
Thanks for playing!
Say it with me.
Fascist. Hitler and his boys were fascist thugs. Right wing. The Nazis were as fascist as they come. Authoritarians. Fascist. Repeat it until you understand it.
@Arkturos saidHe does his namesake no honour. Jean Jacques was a radical anti-authoritarian.
Even though I'm only one-fourth French by ancestry, I find this rather disappointing for personal and more broadly historical and cultural reasons, and think it unlikely that the "leader" himself could write the correct letters in the right order to spell his own name.
@Suzianne saidand what exactly do you think socialists are, friendly, concerned people?
And you and idiots like you, claiming this, have been shouted down time and time again.
Say it with me.
Fascist. Hitler and his boys were fascist thugs. Right wing. The Nazis were as fascist as they come. Authoritarians. Fascist. Repeat it until you understand it.
did you ever hear of a socialist dictator??
@Earl-of-Trumps saidNope!
and what exactly do you think socialists are, friendly, concerned people?
did you ever hear of a socialist dictator??
Socialists fall to the left on the spectrum. The left is innately more concerned with the common good than the right. The right (like fascism) is inherently selfish.
Take a government class or something. Damn.
@Cliff-Mashburn saidSo what do you think about these people and their 'manifesto'? Just weird, or creepy, or spot on? Or maybe no opinion about them at all?
@moonbus
OMG you found some weird splinter group with almost no followers hooray for you.
@AThousandYoung saidThanks for the reference to Grant. Grant held Nordics to be the superior race and to have a natural right to rule over the lesser races of men.
It's not so much borrowed from Nazi Germany as this had been a conversation going back and forth between USA, UK and Germany. Hitler got a lot of his inspiration from Madison Grant's writings which explicitly separated Nordics from "Alpines" (Celts) and Mediterraneans.
I quote from Grant himself:
"A rigid system of selection through the elimination of those who are weak or unfit—in other words social failures—would solve the whole question [of social order] in one hundred years, as well as enable us to get rid of the undesirables who crowd our jails, hospitals, and insane asylums. The individual himself can be nourished, educated and protected by the community during his lifetime, but the state through sterilization must see to it that his line stops with him, or else future generations will be cursed with an ever increasing load of misguided sentimentalism. This is a practical, merciful, and inevitable solution of the whole problem, and can be applied to an ever widening circle of social discards, beginning always with the criminal, the diseased, and the insane, and extending gradually to types which may be called weaklings rather than defectives, and perhaps ultimately to worthless race types."
@Earl-of-Trumps saidCome on Earl, you're smart enough to figure this out for yourself, without us having to explain it yet again.
Yes, and something e;se was uncovered, too. From the text:
"One group invited to attend Duke’s birthday, for example, was a small, upstart National Socialist organization called
The New Way, according to a message the group’s founder posted on Telegram. That group positions itself as a successor to the Nazi regime."
How many times have we argued t ...[text shortened]...
Geee... you think there's a connection here...?, @Suzianne?, @sonhouse??
Thanks for playing!
Socialism is a political system in which the state undertakes, massively and systematically, to re-distribute wealth and resources in order to provide the population with goods and services, typically food, housing, and medical care, at considerably less than market value at the point of consumption. Such systems have been implemented in Scandinavia and Cuba.
Nazi Germany implemented no such system, and therefore was not socialist. Ignore the coincidence that the official name for the Nazi party contained the word "socialist"; it does not mean what it appears to mean. Nazi Germany was not socialist. Nazi Germany did not provide people with food, housing, and medical care free at the point of consumption, unless you’re thinking about the people incarcerated in the concentration camps – but their medical care was definitely substandard.
@moonbus saidCuba is a failure. So is North Korea and Venezuela. When the Soviet Union, East Germany and China were purely socialist they were failures as well. All these socialist systems were oppressive and led to millions risking their lives trying to escape the horrendous lifestyle. These countries have blurred the lines between communism and socialism, but all of these mentioned have state control of resources. China is basically out of the woods because they have maintained a communist regime with a capitalist economic system which has proven to be a market success.
Socialism is a political system in which the state undertakes, massively and systematically, to re-distribute wealth and resources in order to provide the population with goods and services, typically food, housing, and medical care, at considerably less than market value at the point of consumption. Such systems have been implemented in Scandinavia and Cuba.
Why did you try to equate Scandinavia with socialist is unclear. These countries NSD, are capitalist with socialist principles which include providing the essential services you mentioned but they cannot be labelled socialist countries or socialist political systems.
@Earl-of-Trumps saidN Korea is a Republic according to their name
@Suzianne
go take a look at the "common good" all over Cuba, NKorea, etc...
That is why the right tries to gold the left back
@Rajk999 saidThat’s good then if we vote for socialist policies we won’t become socialist
Cuba is a failure. So is North Korea and Venezuela. When the Soviet Union, East Germany and China were purely socialist they were failures as well. All these socialist systems were oppressive and led to millions risking their lives trying to escape the horrendous lifestyle. These countries have blurred the lines between communism and socialism, but all of these mentioned hav ...[text shortened]... rvices you mentioned but they cannot be labelled socialist countries or socialist political systems.
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@AThousandYoung saidSo was the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics....
N Korea is a Republic according to their name
...but that does not mean that they weren't hardcore leftists to the max