Who here WANTS end of US democracy?

@sonhouse said
Go on, you can say it, you HATE the idea of democracy and are working directly to kill democracy here in the US. People like Metal so-called Brain for instance.

The U.S. is not a democracy.

We only have two major parties. But not by choice. 62%of Americans say they want the option of a third party; dissatisfaction with the Democrats and the Republicans helps explain why the U.S. has one of the lowest voter-turnout numbers in the world. Smaller parties are barred from presidential debates, don’t receive coverage in the press, are stymied by draconian ballot-access laws drafted by Democrats and Republicans, and bludgeoned by nuisance lawsuits filed by the big two in order to drain their resources and block them from the ballot.

@Metal-Brain
We don't need lessons from an avowed communist. You are one pathetic human being not with the effort to debate which you never do, you ONLY post BULLSHYTE sites like Rumble and their buddies.
You have a PERMANENT agenda every time you post which is, DESTORY THE US.

@sonhouse said
@Metal-Brain
We don't need lessons from an avowed communist. You are one pathetic human being not with the effort to debate which you never do, you ONLY post BULLSHYTE sites like Rumble and their buddies.
You have a PERMANENT agenda every time you post which is, DESTORY THE US.

Do you not have a “permanent agenda” Sonhouse? That is a question by the way. Just like the question to you that asks why is it OK to vote without proving who you are?

@sonhouse said
@Metal-Brain
We don't need lessons from an avowed communist. You are one pathetic human being not with the effort to debate which you never do, you ONLY post BULLSHYTE sites like Rumble and their buddies.
You have a PERMANENT agenda every time you post which is, DESTORY THE US.

You want Trump indicted so he cannot run for president to thwart democracy. Even the president of Mexico said so because they tried to do the same thing with him. Democrats do not want the people to decide if Trump is fit for another term.

It is you that wants to end democracy. You don't want the people to decide who can run for POTUS. You want to ban certain candidates from running. Last time I checked that is why the USA said Iran is not a democracy, because they ban certain candidates from running.
You want the USA to be like Iran and ban candidates from running. Yes, you want to end democracy. If you do not like the people deciding who is fit to be president move to Iran.

@averagejoe1 said
I note that you yourself do not give a rat's ass if a person can vote without even identifying who they are. It is difficult to absorb your screed above when it is written by someone who thinks someone need not have ID to vote, Sonhouse.

Of course legitimate voters should be identified. What is not necessary is a specific voter ID different from any other commonly used form of ID (such as a driver's license or a passport or whatever else is accepted by banks and cashiers and marriage offices when you apply for a marriage license and post offices when you get registered letters).

@moonbus said
Of course legitimate voters should be identified. What is not necessary is a specific voter ID different from any other commonly used form of ID (such as a driver's license or a passport or whatever else is accepted by banks and cashiers and marriage offices when you apply for a marriage license and post offices when you get registered letters).

Nobody rejects a driver's license as proper ID in the USA.
What are you talking about?

@moonbus said
Of course legitimate voters should be identified. What is not necessary is a specific voter ID different from any other commonly used form of ID (such as a driver's license or a passport or whatever else is accepted by banks and cashiers and marriage offices when you apply for a marriage license and post offices when you get registered letters).

The voting agencies dictate what ID is acceptable. There just should be one. Sonhouse says there should not. He will not say why.

@metal-brain said
Nobody rejects a driver's license as proper ID in the USA.
What are you talking about?

Some people are claiming there must be a separate voter ID.

@averagejoe1 said
The voting agencies dictate what ID is acceptable. There just should be one. Sonhouse says there should not. He will not say why.

Each state has its own electoral commission responsible for printing and counting ballots, so it makes sense that each state should also determine how it verifies voter identity. Given that the federal govt in America does not issue national identity cards, as most other countries do, I don’t see any point in claiming there should be a single valid national voter ID either.

@moonbus
What is wrong with just presenting a state ID card or drivers license? Here in my state we do that beforehand and just go to the voting booth and no license is shown because you have been previously vetted.
What zombies want is to cut down on black and brown voters BECAUSE they generally vote democrat and they can't have that since the draconian bullshyte the zombies are after is to make sure REPUBS always win and dems have no chance so they remain in power forever, meaning the end of democracy here.
THAT is their goal and there is no getting around that.
This is the result of multi decades of work by Christian nationalists whose goal is to redo the US into a Christian version of Iran or the Taliban, where those zombies want to control the lives of women from birth to death and no abortions EVER and we don't give a rats ass if that disgusting woman has sex and then doesn't want the baby, we don't care if that BITCH dies in childbirth, who gives a rats ass about THAT, we want to save that precious baby and now we are passing laws to make it a viable human from CONCEPTION.
Another zombie law coming in Idaho is to make a kid a FELON for DARING to cross state lines from Idaho to go to say Washington or whatever to have the procedure so they are going directly against the 14th amendment which was done in the 19th century to make sure it is totally legal for ANYONE to cross state lines without interference by law enforcement JUST FOR CROSSING THE STATE LINE.

A lot of ultra draconian bullshyte is going up in just about every zombie repub state just like that or the one making it a law that a viable human is made FROM CONCEPTION, screw that idiot 6 week thing.

This is a sign of the US going down the tubes and we cannot allow that to happen and that is because all that draconian bullshyte has no real base, 60+% of US citizens DISAPPROVE of such measures so dems have to pick up on that and kick those assswipes out of office.
I know this is off target but the voter ID thing is just one aspect of the drive to kill democracy in the US, it's a much bigger issue overall than voter ID.

https://apnews.com/article/supreme-court-abortion-ruling-states-a767801145ad01617100e57410a0a21d

@sonhouse said
@moonbus
What is wrong with just presenting a state ID card or drivers license? Here in my state we do that beforehand and just go to the voting booth and no license is shown because you have been previously vetted.
What zombies want is to cut down on black and brown voters BECAUSE they generally vote democrat and they can't have that since the draconian bullshyte the zomb ...[text shortened]...

https://apnews.com/article/supreme-court-abortion-ruling-states-a767801145ad01617100e57410a0a21d

Sonhouse, your calling would have been a law professor. And you make it all so concise and clear, implying that there are no other ways to look at your renderings. Your way, or the highway. That would be a simple class, just memorization.
You still have not explained your position on allowing people to come up to a voting table and vote without showing an ID. An ID which can be obtained within the next 500 days before the presidential election.

@moonbus said
Some people are claiming there must be a separate voter ID.

What is your source of information?

@moonbus said
Some people are claiming there must be a separate voter ID.

I don't even know what that means? Why all this jumping around? Someone should have a state-approved ID to vote. Period. You are worse than Sonhouse.

@Metal-Brain
Bla Bla Bla. There is nothing in either the constitution or DOJ laws saying you cannot be elected because you are a felon. Trump could win even if he is in Levinworth.
But that will never happen because Trump's time is nearly over, he is losing supporters every day.

@AverageJoe1
Funny how all this voter crap was ALWAYS BS till Trump came around and pronounced it real, MASSIVE voter fraud and you are still buying into it.
So much for the vaunted intelligence of the human race, IQ's going down and down.