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16 Feb 10
They carped and moaned about backroom deals and now when they have been offered a transparent meeting in full view of the American people they suddenly are concerned about the size of the room and whether the participants minds can be wiped before it starts. They have no solution to the insurance problem. Why don't they just admit it instead of telling such transparent lies?
16 Feb 10
Originally posted by TerrierJacknewsflash: everybody in politics lies.
They carped and moaned about backroom deals and now when they have been offered a transparent meeting in full view of the American people they suddenly are concerned about the size of the room and whether the participants minds can be wiped before it starts. They have no solution to the insurance problem. Why don't they just admit it instead of telling such transparent lies?
16 Feb 10
Originally posted by TerrierJackThat's a lot of strawmen for a short a post. Congratulations.
They carped and moaned about backroom deals and now when they have been offered a transparent meeting in full view of the American people they suddenly are concerned about the size of the room and whether the participants minds can be wiped before it starts. They have no solution to the insurance problem. Why don't they just admit it instead of telling such transparent lies?
16 Feb 10
Originally posted by TerrierJackSit ! Siiiiiit down ! Go get your leash ! Get your leash ! Good booooooy ! Now Granny'll take you for a walk.
They carped and moaned about backroom deals and now when they have been offered a transparent meeting in full view of the American people they suddenly are concerned about the size of the room and whether the participants minds can be wiped before it starts. They have no solution to the insurance problem. Why don't they just admit it instead of telling such transparent lies?
GRANNY.
16 Feb 10
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Originally posted by sh76Yep. But since we're talking about evil lying Rethuglicans, did you happen to catch that speech by Christie the other day? It was a like a declaration of war.
Tough to take any question seriously when it assumes the proposition that it sets out to prove; isn't it?
http://www.njn.net/news/coverage/2010/budgetspeech.html
EDIT: Transcript at RedState if you'd rather read it.
http://www.redstate.com/mark_i/2010/02/15/that-christie-speech/
16 Feb 10
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Originally posted by SleepyguyGo Chris!
Yep. But since we're talking about evil lying Rethuglicans, did you happen to catch that speech by Christie the other day? It was a like a declaration of war.
http://www.njn.net/news/coverage/2010/budgetspeech.html
EDIT: Transcript at RedState if you'd rather read it.
http://www.redstate.com/mark_i/2010/02/15/that-christie-speech/
And when Chris goes, others best get out of the way.
I'm sorry; I just can't help myself.
16 Feb 10
Originally posted by TerrierJackI would have to say, there is no solution to the Health care problem...No total solution. But they have ideas they want to show.
They carped and moaned about backroom deals and now when they have been offered a transparent meeting in full view of the American people they suddenly are concerned about the size of the room and whether the participants minds can be wiped before it starts. They have no solution to the insurance problem. Why don't they just admit it instead of telling such transparent lies?
Bottom line, the best plan is one everyone will get on board with, which allows for adapting as you go along. Something doesn;t work, tweak it some.
Don't try to bite off the whole issue, fix things in some kind of priority, and have a place in the bill, which requires that each year, something else is tackled, in order of priority.
During that year, have a bi-partisan committee who arew responsible for tackling what comes up the following year.
If we take it in logical steps, that the people can follow, it's easier to sell. Much easier than back door politics.
16 Feb 10
Originally posted by KazetNagorraHow the hell do you know if our "health care system is broken?"
The Republicans know the health care system is broken, but their electorate does not want it to be changed, and they simply follow what their electorate wants.
A bunch of euro-armchair quarter backs telling us how bad our healthcare is when people from all over the world flock here for treatment.
16 Feb 10
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Originally posted by utherpendragonInternational Journal of Health Services
How the hell do you know if our "health care system is broken?"
A bunch of euro-armchair quarter backs telling us how bad our healthcare is when people from all over the world flock here for treatment.
Issue: Volume 37, Number 1 / 2007
Pages: 193 - 198
URL: Linking Options
Patients Without Borders: The Emergence of Medical Tourism
Annette B. Ramírez de Arellano
Abstract:
A growing number of patients from the United States and other developed countries are traveling abroad with the express purpose of obtaining health care, including elective surgery and long-term care.This trend is not innocuous. It can lead developing countries to emphasize technology-intensive tertiary care for foreigners at the expense of basic health care for their citizens. Moreover, it can exacerbate the brain drain from the public to the private sector. The examples of Thailand and India suggest the distorting effects of this trend and raise questions of social equity in the distribution of scarce resources.
http://baywood.metapress.com/app/home/contribution.asp?referrer=parent&backto=issue,10,10;journal,13,157;linkingpublicationresults,1:300313,1
Does this mean that the healthcare of these developing countries is of a high level for all of it's citizens ? It doesn't, same for medical tourism to the USA, medical tourism only means that there is a niche in the market in which the USA excels, but this doesn't mean the system in it's entirety provides good health care for all Americans.
16 Feb 10
Originally posted by utherpendragonYou can look up the figures yourself, if you want to. US health care is by far the most expensive in the world, and that's not even correcting for the fact that a large percentage of the population does not get any (non-emergency) health care.
How the hell do you know if our "health care system is broken?"
A bunch of euro-armchair quarter backs telling us how bad our healthcare is when people from all over the world flock here for treatment.