Originally posted by KazetNagorra"The Kaiser Family Foundation, a liberal non-profit frequently quoted by the media, puts the number of uninsured Americans who do not qualify for current government programs and make less than $50,000 a year between 13.9 million and 8.2 million.
You can look up the figures yourself, if you want to. US health care is by far the most expensive in the world, and that's not even correcting for the fact that a large percentage of the population does not get any (non-emergency) health care.
Kaiser’s 8.2 million figure for the chronically uninsured only includes those uninsured for two years or more. It is also worth noting, that, 45 percent of uninsured people will be uninsured for less than four months according to the Congressional Budget Office."
http://www.businessandmedia.org/printer/2007/20070718153509.aspx
Originally posted by utherpendragonAnd? That percentage of uninsured is way above just about any other rich industrialized country.
"The Kaiser Family Foundation, a liberal non-profit frequently quoted by the media, puts the number of uninsured Americans who do not qualify for current government programs and make less than $50,000 a year between 13.9 million and 8.2 million.
Kaiser’s 8.2 million figure for the chronically uninsured only includes those uninsured for two y ...[text shortened]... gressional Budget Office."
http://www.businessandmedia.org/printer/2007/20070718153509.aspx
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Quit being total morons! We are not talking about the health care system - we are talking about the insurance system. Doctors and nurses still go to work (and they are still under the control of death panels sitting in insurance company offices dotting this country.) And news flash, (cause I've been there) no one in those offices gives a small bit of used soap about you! This issue has nothing directly to do with medical care. It is all about insurance. Which (in case you have been sleeping) is rising in cost and reducing in benefits every year. Solve that or shut up.
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Originally posted by sh76And BTW - how is it not a lie if you whine and moan to get something and as soon as it is offered to you you start hemming and hawing about having to take it? If they would quit being such transparent liars I'd quit calling them liars.
Tough to take any question seriously when it assumes the proposition that it sets out to prove; isn't it?
Originally posted by TerrierJackExactly. The kicked and screamed about having open debates on CSPAN, and now that they got their way they're back peddling big time.
And BTW - how is it not a lie if you whine and moan to get something and as soon as it is offered to you you start hemming and hawing about having to take it? If they would quit being such transparent liars I'd quit calling them liars.
And I'd bet big money the reason they're back peddling is because all of the dishonest healthcare hysteria (i.e. covering dogs, illegals, death panels, forced abortions, etc.) won't play in that forum.
A discussion that cuts out all of the BS favors Democrats on this one.
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Originally posted by generalissimoI'm not impugning their ancestry - I 'm not even saying that they are not native born - but they are liars. I'm not advocating that they be investigated for anti-American activities - I'm not calling them fascists - but they are shameless hypocrites. People should be aware that they do not have the best interests of this nation foremost in their minds because after all they are just liars and hypocrites.
[b]daughter shagging pig fonecaters.
exactly, europeans on the other hand are known to be very civilized :
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Josef_Fritzl[/b]
Originally posted by USArmyParatrooperYou have the ideology of a douche bag. And,we are not the only ones who think so,
1: I didn't call anyone a liar
2: You couldn't even begin to define my ideology, nor speak for America.
go to,
http://0rg.tripod.com/uhyw/index.blog?entry_id=1026590
see,
us_army_airborne_sean (US Soldier and Democrat)
You made the hall of fame boy!You have been spreading your progressive crap for a long time, haven't you son?Hiding behind "I m a soldier! I am a soldier in Iraq!" You are a disgrace!
Originally posted by utherpendragonAh, yes. More name calling and more of your creepy, obsessive cyber stalking.
You have the ideology of a douche bag. And,we are not the only ones who think so,
go to,
http://0rg.tripod.com/uhyw/index.blog?entry_id=1026590
see,
us_army_airborne_sean (US Soldier and Democrat)
You made the hall of fame boy!You have been spreading your progressive crap for a long time, haven't you son?Hiding behind "I m a soldier! I am a soldier in Iraq!" You are a disgrace!
How is being frank and honest about who I am and what I do "hiding" behind anything? I'm a disgrace because I have a difference of opinion from you on issues?
Yes, I've been speaking my opinion for a long time as I'm sure you have and most of us have. It really doesn't bother me what lengths you will go to try to "fish out" anything and everything I've ever posted. I have nothing to hide and it further illustrates what a pathetic, obsessive leg humper you really are.
Originally posted by utherpendragonWow! Great detective work.....I knew this wannabe was a "socio-commie-libo-bama-tard".....awesome!!!
You have the ideology of a douche bag. And,we are not the only ones who think so,
go to,
http://0rg.tripod.com/uhyw/index.blog?entry_id=1026590
see,
us_army_airborne_sean (US Soldier and Democrat)
You made the hall of fame boy!You have been spreading your progressive crap for a long time, haven't you son?Hiding behind "I m a soldier! I am a soldier in Iraq!" You are a disgrace!