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Why didn't PUTIN invade when TRUMP was President?

Why didn't PUTIN invade when TRUMP was President?

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jimm619

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According to Bolton, Trump was, already doing Putin's bidding
https://news.yahoo.com/ex-trump-national-security-advisor-231023716.html

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@jimm619 said
According to Bolton, Trump was, already doing Putin's bidding
...no Russ, Sherlock.

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@shallow-blue said
...no Russ, Sherlock.
Sure, but this is documented,
by TRUMP's inner circle

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@jimm619 said
Sure, but this is documented,
by TRUMP's inner circle
So if Trump was going to do Putin's bidding for him and ax NATO in the 2nd term,
how come Vlad didn't cheat the 2020 election to get Donald back in?
BTW, if Trump got the US out of NATO, that really would be an "America First" action.


BTW, you do know Bolton was canned by Trump, right?

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@earl-of-trumps said
So if Trump was going to do Putin's bidding for him and ax NATO in the 2nd term,
how come Vlad didn't cheat the 2020 election to get Donald back in?
They did:

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/03/16/us/politics/election-interference-russia-2020-assessment.html

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@earl-of-trumps said
So if Trump was going to do Putin's bidding for him and ax NATO in the 2nd term,
how come Vlad didn't cheat the 2020 election to get Donald back in?
BTW, if Trump got the US out of NATO, that really would be an "America First" action.


BTW, you do know Bolton was canned by Trump, right?
You can only run that disinformation campaign once, as soon as the electorate had witnessed trumps incompetence and corruption in office that jig was up.
I heard an interesting analysis regarding Russia’s disinformation campaigns in the US and Europe.
They are not committed to any particular individual or political slant, the main purpose of it is to sow division amongst those they perceive to be potential or actual enemy states. They latched onto the pre existing sense of disenfranchisement felt by the right wing conservative movement in the US and the Euro sceptic movements in Europe because their job was already half done. In a right wing conservative dominated political landscape they would just as easily stoke resentment amongst the disaffected liberal left.

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@earl-of-trumps said
So if Trump was going to do Putin's bidding for him and ax NATO in the 2nd term,how come Vlad didn't cheat the 2020 election to get Donald back in?
He did. This is well documented. He just failed at his attempts, because he was so blatant the first time 'round even the USAliens weren't having any of it.

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@jimm619 said
According to Bolton, Trump was, already doing Putin's bidding
https://news.yahoo.com/ex-trump-national-security-advisor-231023716.html
Bolton is a liar and human scum.

Trump shipped weapons to Ukraine to prepare for this proxy war with Russia. There was nothing pro Russia about Trump when it came to policy. He will occasionally say positive things about Putin, but his past actions are far different.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/trump-administration-sanctions-russians-for-interference-in-u-s-elections-1521124200

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No one above states the obvious answer to this post . He respected and feared Trump. Trump held him, Kim and Xi at bay. He was a genius at foreign politics, he whipped NATO into shape.
Putin would not make a move, because he knew Trump would thwart him. So, the real question, why does Putin invade with the Biden Administration in charge?
You have 60 seconds…….

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@averagejoe1 said
No one above states the obvious answer to this post . He respected and feared Trump. Trump held him, Kim and Xi at bay. He was a genius at foreign politics, he whipped NATO into shape.
Putin would not make a move, because he knew Trump would thwart him. So, the real question, why does Putin invade with the Biden Administration in charge?
You have 60 seconds…….
I doubt that is the reason why. Trump is no genius at foreign politics. If he was he would have no need for advisors like Kissinger.

I tried to create a thread called "If Trump is not a creep..." and asked why he did 3 things that I think makes him a creep. One of them was why did the CIA under Trump planned to kidnap and assassinate Jullian Assange. It was auto-censored and I think it was because of the word assassinate was in it. It was purely historical context though and was not encouraging killing in any way so I appealed the censoring algorithm be reviewed.

I have heard nothing yet. That auto-censor is inadequate. There was nothing to justify it unless the moderator is a Trump supporter.

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@earl-of-trumps said
So if Trump was going to do Putin's bidding for him and ax NATO in the 2nd term,
how come Vlad didn't cheat the 2020 election to get Donald back in?
BTW, if Trump got the US out of NATO, that really would be an "America First" action.


BTW, you do know Bolton was canned by Trump, right?
Bolton isn't popular, even among
his fellow neo-cons. Apparently, he's
a sharp elbowed, opinionated guy.
That's the main reason I give him
MORE credibility, he is definitely
not a sycophantic, yes man.

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@kevcvs57 said
You can only run that disinformation campaign once, as soon as the electorate had witnessed trumps incompetence and corruption in office that jig was up.
I heard an interesting analysis regarding Russia’s disinformation campaigns in the US and Europe.
They are not committed to any particular individual or political slant, the main purpose of it is to sow division amongst ...[text shortened]... political landscape they would just as easily stoke resentment amongst the disaffected liberal left.
This is a very good point.
Putin sows dissent
....allies squabble and he's half way home.
The reason he liked TRUMP was because
TRUMP promised to get us out of NATO...
No worries though, just another one of TRUMP's lies.

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@jimm619 said
Bolton isn't popular, even among
his fellow neo-cons. Apparently, he's
a sharp elbowed, opinionated guy.
That's the main reason I give him
MORE credibility, he is definitely
not a sycophantic, yes man.
He is definitely a sycophantic yes man when it comes to war and coup attempts. He was honest about one thing though.

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@jimm619 said
This is a very good point.
Putin sows dissent
....allies squabble and he's half way home.
The reason he liked TRUMP was because
TRUMP promised to get us out of NATO...
No worries though, just another one of TRUMP's lies.
"TRUMP promised to get us out of NATO"

https://www.factcheck.org/2016/05/whats-trumps-position-on-nato/

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