08 Mar 22
@metal-brain saidIs this general one of the Nazis?
If Zelensky is not a puppet of the west, why didn't he make Ukraine neutral?
https://rumble.com/vwjrmo-this-general-says-ukrainian-president-volodymyr-zelenskyy-is-a-puppet.html
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@metal-brain saidThere is no war other than the won Putin just began, why shouldn’t Ukraine join the EU, it wasn’t going to join NATO anyway because all 30 members would never have agreed that it could.
If Zelensky is not a puppet of the west, why didn't he make Ukraine neutral?
https://rumble.com/vwjrmo-this-general-says-ukrainian-president-volodymyr-zelenskyy-is-a-puppet.html
The Whole NATO BS is a red herring used by Putin to justify the mass slaughter of civilians in an attempt to prevent democracy and freedom spreading like disease from Ukraine to Russia.
Wake up
@metal-brain saidYou cannot be un neutral unless Putin has declared war on the west. Russia invaded its smaller neighbour to prevent the spread of democracy and freedom, no other reason.
If Zelensky is not a puppet of the west, why didn't he make Ukraine neutral?
War could have been avoided had Ukraine become neutral.
The west wanted war so they could outspend Russia until it fails. The American taxpayer pays for the weapons. The puppet masters pay for nothing.
Stop lying and stop being stupid.
08 Mar 22
@metal-brain saidFirst of all Ukraine was neutral at the time of the invasion.
If Zelensky is not a puppet of the west, why didn't he make Ukraine neutral?
https://rumble.com/vwjrmo-this-general-says-ukrainian-president-volodymyr-zelenskyy-is-a-puppet.html
Then they had the signatures of the USA, The United Kingodm and the Russian Federation, that their frontiers were secure.
Why should they have entered any obligation above that? That is the question.
Any way membership in the EU and NATO both would have been very far in the future due to a lot of reasons. It was not that were any imminent danger of the Ukraine just vanishing to the west. However now the NATO can feel itself pressed to accept their application.
How comes that you are not angry at Putin for breaking an international treaty by invading an at the time neutral nation?
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08 Mar 22
@metal-brain saidDunno,' what does 'rumble,'
If Zelensky is not a puppet of the west, why didn't he make Ukraine neutral?
https://rumble.com/vwjrmo-this-general-says-ukrainian-president-volodymyr-zelenskyy-is-a-puppet.html
have to say about it?
Surely, 'rumble' knows. 😆
@metal-brain saidIt's not that simple.
If Zelensky is not a puppet of the west, why didn't he make Ukraine neutral?
Russia threatened harsh sanctions against Ukraine simply for brokering a deal with the EU. It's not simply that Russia doesn't want them joining NATO, Russia doesn't want Ukraine to have *any* relations with the west. This fact may be part of the reason Russia invaded Crimea, which was shortly after Ukrainians protested the president backing out of an EU deal to appease Russia.
In short, Putin wants Ukraine to be a puppet of Russia.
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08 Mar 22
@metal-brain saidWhat exactly do you mean by "neutral", you Russian Disinfo Propagandist?
If Zelensky is not a puppet of the west, why didn't he make Ukraine neutral?
War could have been avoided had Ukraine become neutral.
The west wanted war so they could outspend Russia until it fails. The American taxpayer pays for the weapons. The puppet masters pay for nothing.
08 Mar 22
@kevcvs57 saidYou didn't answer the question. Why not neutral?
There is no war other than the won Putin just began, why shouldn’t Ukraine join the EU, it wasn’t going to join NATO anyway because all 30 members would never have agreed that it could.
The Whole NATO BS is a red herring used by Putin to justify the mass slaughter of civilians in an attempt to prevent democracy and freedom spreading like disease from Ukraine to Russia.
Wake up
To answer your question, to avoid war.
I guess you just want war and are an apologist for those that made sure war would happen. Avoiding war doesn't seem to be on your radar.
08 Mar 22
@ponderable saidUkraine was seeking NATO membership. That is not being neutral.
First of all Ukraine was neutral at the time of the invasion.
Then they had the signatures of the USA, The United Kingodm and the Russian Federation, that their frontiers were secure.
Why should they have entered any obligation above that? That is the question.
Any way membership in the EU and NATO both would have been very far in the future due to a lot of reasons ...[text shortened]... e not angry at Putin for breaking an international treaty by invading an at the time neutral nation?
08 Mar 22
@vivify saidWhat harsh sanctions?
It's not that simple.
Russia threatened harsh sanctions against Ukraine simply for brokering a deal with the EU. It's not simply that Russia doesn't want them joining NATO, Russia doesn't want Ukraine to have *any* relations with the west. This fact may be part of the reason Russia invaded Crimea, which was shortly after Ukrainians protested the president backing out of an EU deal to appease Russia.
In short, Putin wants Ukraine to be a puppet of Russia.
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@metal-brain saidChoosing to align with countries that have similar views and values versus a tyranny run by oligarchs with a KGB shorty as their front-man seems like a better choice than to remain neutral.
Ukraine was seeking NATO membership. That is not being neutral.
Unless you don't understand the concept of ethics. Do you?
09 Mar 22
@metal-brain saidhttps://www.nytimes.com/2013/11/22/world/europe/ukraine-refuses-to-free-ex-leader-raising-concerns-over-eu-talks.html
What harsh sanctions?
Under threat of crippling trade sanctions by Russia, Ukraine announced Thursday that it had suspended its plans to sign far-reaching political and trade agreements with the European Union
09 Mar 22
@kevin-eleven saidSaudi Arabia. The USA aligned with that tyranny.
Choosing to align with countries that have similar views and values versus a tyranny run by oligarchs with a KGB shorty as their front-man seems like a better choice than to remain neutral.
Unless you don't understand the concept of ethics. Do you?
You are spreading propaganda that doesn't make any sense at all.