@averagejoe1 saidMoney isn't success unless money is the goal. And it isn't for most people. If taking care of family is the goal, then money is just one of the variables.
The whole reason to make yourself successful is to have your family depend on you and to take care of them in the best way possible.
Otherwise, if you do not care for your family and achieve success, yeah, I guess you are right, they will find you a weak parent and maybe 'abandon you completely'. Sue, you make me want to go out and make more money, which is the vehicle to measure success.
When money is the goal then you get billionaires who do anything for it. Hoard it. Steal it. With limited supply this prevents others from earning enough to feed families.
@wildgrass saidThat money can't sit still for one day let alone be hoarded, this view of economics was learned from Walt Disney comics and especially Uncle Scrooge.
Money isn't success unless money is the goal. And it isn't for most people. If taking care of family is the goal, then money is just one of the variables.
When money is the goal then you get billionaires who do anything for it. Hoard it. Steal it. With limited supply this prevents others from earning enough to feed families.
No, rich people don't fill their swimming pool and frolic in it, no, they don't stuff it under the mattress or hoard it. It has to be working the whole time to keep ahead of the tax known as inflation. If not being invested by the billionaire themself they have teams of people whose careers are to keep that money invested, and those that make bad moves with bad advice don't last long.
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@averagejoe1 saidNo joe I’m really not angry son just telling it like it is IMO notice the distinct lack of exclamation marks.
You are so angry. On the Forum, discussions should stipulate that all (money in this case) is acquired or earned legally. Why spin off into space about stealing money.
So set your premise wit. rich guy who got rich on his own, or inherited the money, and go from there?
You and your fellow rich men’s serfs are going to have to do a lot better if you want to raise my blood pressure.
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@wildgrass saidMoney is simply a way to measure success, though. Just one of the ways. If a farmer is successful in building a house in which to keep his family warm and safe, that is a success for the farmer. He is then successful with his crops that fruit out in the summer. When he sells the crops, you will see that the money he receives will be measured, evidence of the extent of his success.
Money isn't success unless money is the goal. And it isn't for most people. If taking care of family is the goal, then money is just one of the variables.
When money is the goal then you get billionaires who do anything for it. Hoard it. Steal it. With limited supply this prevents others from earning enough to feed families.
Your segue to billionaires is puzzling. We will disregard 'stealing' please...Suzianne uses the phrase 'backs of others', implying that if a guy makes money through someone he employs, he is stealing. Silly stuff.
Then we get into your socialist mind. So, rather than allowing* freedom for a monied person to make money as a hobby, you think he should be restricted (Bernie once said limited to $250k a year). Not make anymore than $X? Please tell us all how that would play out. So his stock dividends and earned interest would be, what, spread around to the masses? What in the hell are saying? And what do you mean by hoarding? Am I hoarding the money I have saved up for 50 years? No longer allowed? What?
*. Just who would 'allow' and mange this program?
@wildgrass saidawe shyt...bright mfer right here y'all
There's a big difference between a million and a billion.
@mott-the-hoople saidHe said above that money is not success unless money is the goal. Whaaaaaaat???
awe shyt...bright mfer right here y'all
Note that not one Lilly-livered Liberal has responded to the thread question. Why don’t they ever complain about the millions that people in sports and acting make, but they raise hell about people like Elon Muskand Bezos, who should not make so much money.
Maybe they have no answer, do you think?
@averagejoe1 saidPower is buying social media platforms so that you can control who is allowed to say what
Wajoma, did you notice above that some of these turkeys think that billionaires enjoy increasing their wealth for power? I have always thought it was the desire for success. The high of success.
Given, one has to be 'powerful' to be a boss of an enterprise where he tells people what to do to make the enterprise a success. Or, maybe they can tell us what they mean by power.
https://gizmodo.com.au/2023/07/elon-musk-king-of-censorship-10-times-the-free-speech-absolutist-silenced-twitter-users/
@athousandyoung saidI don't quite get that, but I prob agree with you. Have you noticed how libs try to stifle free speech? Why would someone care what someone else posts on social media platforms. We as free thinkers can take it or leave it. If someone says to buy Acme stock, free speech, and I buy it and lose all my money, no one has anything to do with the person who wrote it , or with me. Our problem. Libs think they have to be in everyone else's business. Why do we have to even know about Twitter? Why do media write about it.? I myself do not even know what it is, I do not even know what Facebook is. Who cares. I am glad to not be knotted up in y'all's ball of wax.
Power is buying social media platforms so that you can control who is allowed to say what
https://gizmodo.com.au/2023/07/elon-musk-king-of-censorship-10-times-the-free-speech-absolutist-silenced-twitter-users/
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@athousandyoung saidIt's not a bad concept, mon ami
Power is buying social media platforms so that you can control who is allowed to say what
https://gizmodo.com.au/2023/07/elon-musk-king-of-censorship-10-times-the-free-speech-absolutist-silenced-twitter-users/
One thing it did do was to teach the liberals that ran Twitter what that form of propaganda feels like
when you're on the receiving end of it. And Google sucks for much the same reason.
@earl-of-trumps saidIt's a lot better business model to let liberals do it apparently. Musk is losing money hand over fist and the Zuck just released a competitor called Threads.
It's not a bad concept, mon ami
One thing it did do was to teach the liberals that ran Twitter what that form of propaganda feels like
when you're on the receiving end of it. And Google sucks for much the same reason.
@athousandyoung saidGood point, but let me play devil's advocate for a minute.
Power is buying social media platforms so that you can control who is allowed to say what
https://gizmodo.com.au/2023/07/elon-musk-king-of-censorship-10-times-the-free-speech-absolutist-silenced-twitter-users/
If a foreign government asks Musk to censor stuff on twitter, there is no constitution protecting free speech in that country and will censor twitter from access to his country if he doesn't do as he is asked won't he lose money?
My point is that the typical business model's goal is to make profits. Are you asking Musk to sacrifice profits because he can afford it? You said he was already losing money from buying twitter. As much as I hate censorship is it reasonable to ask Musk to sacrifice all profits to protect free speech in countries that have no obligation to respect free speech in the first place?
@earl-of-trumps saidThe "propaganda" you accuse libs of was backed by most of the world's scientists. Your wasn't.
It's not a bad concept, mon ami
One thing it did do was to teach the liberals that ran Twitter what that form of propaganda feels like
when you're on the receiving end of it. And Google sucks for much the same reason.
@metal-brain saidI'm not a shareholder for Twitter so I'm not asking Musk to do anything.
Good point, but let me play devil's advocate for a minute.
If a foreign government asks Musk to censor stuff on twitter, there is no constitution protecting free speech in that country and will censor twitter from access to his country if he doesn't do as he is asked won't he lose money?
My point is that the typical business model's goal is to make profits. Are you ...[text shortened]... protect free speech in countries that have no obligation to respect free speech in the first place?
@athousandyoung saidDude you're ignorant of how so called philanthropy really works.
Dude you're insane. Bill Gates has been giving his money away for over ten years.
https://www.privatebankingconcepts.com/2021/12/06/how-bill-gates-really-keeps-all-the-money-he-gives-money-to-his-foundation/