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@AverageJoe1 saidVery cute and clever, but my only response is to re-post, since you obvioulsy did not understand the question, or did a Lib-Gambit and wrote about something else. I did not read the first one,,,,,,did you actually quote the bible?
Well, for example, do some people, who work harder than others, get to 'save up' that which they have worked for, or does the government have some interest in the use of said work products? Do other people, who have less than the hard worker, actually share in the use of said products?
This is a fair question by a person who cannot define communism.
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@Suzianne saidOh, you like ‘TagYou’re It”. OK. You never answered this with a debate-sanctioned type of answer.
My last post was a response to this.
Editing a post that quoted another post results in the post having the quoted section stripped out, so it looks like it was never quoted.
You have said that the phrase ‘You guys’ applies equally to boys and girls, women and men.
Last week, I addressed you as feller, you said that you are not a feller.
Can you tell us what the difference is, without bible verse?
@AverageJoe1
You mean you have to be shown the difference between a male and a female human?
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@AverageJoe1 saidWhy do you 'not read' posts, and then claim no one answered you?
Very cute and clever, but my only response is to re-post, since you obvioulsy did not understand the question, or did a Lib-Gambit and wrote about something else. I did not read the first one,,,,,,did you actually quote the bible?
Are you just anti-social?
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@sonhouse saidThis is all very good information about communism and demonstrates why we must keep that kind of power
@AverageJoe1
I think 'sweeping' meant the idea communism is automatically 100% bad but the real deal is how the leaders set things up. Like in China it is not a pure commie country, you can own basically what you want and such but talk stink about the government and they are on you as fast as any other commie country like Russia.
Like I said, if communism was run by folks ...[text shortened]... it never works that way, the leaders become despots and dictators and kills anyone deemed a critic.
out of the hands of our leaders. They'll screw it up every time so the less they have power over, the less damage they can do. Seriously.
In our country, look at how badly they managed Social Security, Social Welfare, and ObamaCare. 'Nuff said?
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@AverageJoe1 saidMost American families are Communist. Communism is innate and because we are raised as good Communists, we understand intuitively how it works.
For me, I think absolutely everything about it is 100%b bad.
What say you?
In a family, goods and services are owned in common and available on an as-needed basis. 'From each according to his abilities, to each according to his needs.' If you need water, you grab some. You don't pay for it. You have to ask but don't pay to borrow the car. If two people want the car at the same time, there is a negotiation, not a bidding war. You are expected to behave and not abuse these privileges.
There are absolute rulers in the politburo (Mom and Dad) that make all decisions, for the benefit of everyone.
Money isn't needed within the family. No one is paid, there are no taxes. Everyone is just expected to do their jobs, and is criticized when they don't.
Communism works great in small, tightly bound, family groups. Problem is Communism doesn't scale up outside of the family very well. Capitalism is unmatched in its ability to innovate and efficiently produce for larger groups of people. But we have to learn capitalism.
Yet we still value socialism and keep some aspects of it even as we embrace capitalism: equal justice (not whatever justice you can buy). One person one vote (not all the votes you can buy). Capitalism in those venues becomes corruption, and we reject that - rightly so.
So we are a blend of communism, socialism, and capitalism - and when each system stays in its own lane, things work well.
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@sonhouse saidNo, you once again exhibit a forced penchant of pretending to mis-understand a MOST simple presentation of a conflicted state of mind of one of the members of this Forum.
@AverageJoe1
You mean you have to be shown the difference between a male and a female human?
Please read it again, and defend the Sue, like Trump's lawyers are about to defend Trump.
@Earl-of-Trumps saidGreat point. Seems like Sonhouse is the VERY person who would not like the failure of democracy which he is promoting in his post.
This is all very good information about communism and demonstrates why we must keep that kind of power
out of the hands of our leaders. They'll screw it up every time so the less they have power over, the less damage they can do. Seriously.
In our country, look at how badly they managed Social Security, Social Welfare, and ObamaCare. 'Nuff said?
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@spruce112358 saidThe family is 'all related'. The 330M milloin people in this country are not. Need I explain the difference. I feed our dog. I do not go over and feed my neighbor's dog. Why don't you just say that everyone on my block shares everything....you stop your analogy at my front door.
Most American families are Communist. Communism is innate and because we are raised as good Communists, we understand intuitively how it works.
In a family, goods and services are owned in common and available on an as-needed basis. 'From each according to his abilities, to each according to his needs.' If you need water, you grab some. You don't pay for it. You have ...[text shortened]... communism, socialism, and capitalism - and when each system stays in its own lane, things work well.
Is that you, MB?
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@AverageJoe1 saidAverageJoe: "I think absolutely everything about [communism] is 100%b bad."
The family is 'all related'. The 330M milloin people in this country are not. Need I explain the difference. I feed our dog. I do not go over and feed my neighbor's dog. Why don't you just say that everyone on my block shares everything....you stop your analogy at my front door.
Is that you, MB?
Spruce: "You were raised as a communist from yay high."
AverageJoe: "WELL OF COURSE! I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT...WHY DON'T YOU..."
Spruce: "So you were wrong."
AverageJoe: "NEED I EXPLAIN...THE POPULATION OF THE US IS..."
This is what I have to put up with. 🙂
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@spruce112358 saidHere is as plain an example, to explain your example, that I can come up with.
AverageJoe: "I think absolutely everything about [communism] is 100%b bad."
Spruce: "You were raised as a communist from yay high."
AverageJoe: "WELL OF COURSE! I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT...WHY DON'T YOU..."
Spruce: "So you were wrong."
AverageJoe: "NEED I EXPLAIN...THE POPULATION OF THE US IS..."
This is what I have to put up with. 🙂
A dog or a wild wolf suckles at its mother's tit, extreme communism.
After it is grown, ,it leaves, and has to fend for itself. In human terms, he has got to become self-reliant. Dog makes do, maybe garbage dump, and wolf eats anything that moves. Selfp-reliant.
So if it is all that obvious, maybe I should ask you why you write it? A family is a small govt where daddy is dictator and parcels out sustenance to his masses. We all know that, why write about it.
The children leave, to go into self reliance, and PAY TAXES which are used to create (enter socialism concept) roads and police departments, city parks.
It is superfluous to say that there is 'socialism' within our midst, with regard to pooling money for shared community projects benefitting everyone.
I guess I am asking, why did you write all that???
This is what I have to put up with.
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@AverageJoe1
RIGHT. I am PROMOTING the loss of democracy.
I guess you think Trump is joking when he says he will be a dictator on day one.
Or the fact he does not believe in the peaceful transfer of power in the US.
Or the election was stolen which he pukes out daily.
He NEVER applauds the leaders of western countries but LOVES Kim Jon Un and Putin is a GENIUS.
If T is reelected he will be going for vastly increased POTUS power and vastly reduced power of legislation and justice.
He has said so and you think he is JOKING.
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@AverageJoe1 saidWhich I've said many times: a tax-supported (i.e. socialist) police force is what allows capitalism to flourish.
The children leave, to go into self reliance, and PAY TAXES which are used to create (enter socialism concept) roads and police departments, city parks.
Capitalism rests on socialism. All of which rests on little communist units called 'families.'
Why write it indeed...
Hey man.....no question, when a president (Biden) orders pipe lines closed and border opened, that is dictating. And likewise, when President Donald Trump,, in his capacity as president, orders the opening of the border among other things, he will be dictating.
We agree that Trump may have indeed said it.
Tell us, now that we agree that they perform the same acts, what else should we call it.?
Was democracy lost when Biden did his dictating on inauguration day?
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@spruce112358 saidYes,, why indeed do you and Spruce write that the pooling of money (taxation) is an acceptable way to provide commonly used resources such as roads, schools,hospitals. It can be called sociallism, everyone in the world, in the world, knows that. No points for you and Spruce.
Which I've said many times: a tax-supported (i.e. socialist) police force is what allows capitalism to flourish.
Capitalism rests on socialism. All of which rests on little communist units called 'families.'
Why write it indeed...
But what is the point of your writing it? It is a given. What if write to you that if were not for rain, there would be no lakes?
How did you put it above?...."Rain allows lakes to flourish".
I read the news everyday. Capitalism pops up on occasion, but the word socialism does not. Boy, it does with you turkeys. You can still try to make your point(s), but I cannot imagine what it might be. I do recommend my 'lake' analogy if you would like to use it.