Why is 'communist', or 'communism', derided and looked down upon?

Why is 'communist', or 'communism', derided and looked down upon?

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@AverageJoe1 said
With all seriousness it sounds extremely bleak.
Answer this. If your society were this way, would the daily rapport amongst all of these ‘equal’ people be such that gaiety and laughing, an air of bliss and total satisfaction as an individual*, be their lot in life.? May I build a boat, a yacht, in my back yard for my family to sail many ports? Would there be any iot ...[text shortened]... one will be prickly.

*Individual? Forget it. We will all be joined, even Shav, Suzianne and me.
So, you think what I posted was bleak??!

You’d rather be invaded by aliens, obviously?

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@Wajoma said
That happens already AJ, the state claims anything below a certain depth, if you find it they want a piece of it, and that's beside tax. That's what Aus has got going for it, no matter how bad the goobermint cock it up, someone digs another hole, iron ore, coal, gold, uranium, the goobermint has their hand out.
You suggest a piece of it. As I understand Shav, I could not have ANY of it, and if it was truly shared among all of us hand-to-mouth daily existence wretches, I would get an equal part of it? And no more? Does the word 'mine' cease to exist?

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@shavixmir said
So, you think what I posted was bleak??!

You’d rather be invaded by aliens, obviously?
Yes, it means a rather bleak existence (no hope, not encouraging, etc)....everyday exactly the same, never enough wherewithall to enjoy new environs, etc. May I take my family skiing, and we always fly first class. Top-notch accommodations.

I have seen the empty blank eyes, the stares, the depression of Cubans.

Don't know what you meant about aliens. The ones from space, or the invaders from other countries?

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Tell us what about Biden that we would praise. Keep this in mind as you ponder.

Joe Biden says “Extreme Maga Republicans” want to wreck the economy by cutting federal spending. And yet, it is his administration’s blowout budgets that are extreme. Never in this country’s history, with the exception of two emergencies — World War II and COVID — have we spent taxpayer money so recklessly.

Oh, and as to Trump playing golf, where is Biden on Mother's Day? See this.
I never get your points little feller. I never get ANY of your Trump posts.

https://www.wrde.com/news/president-biden-traveling-to-rehoboth-beach-mothers-day-weekend/article_75e16ece-0f2f-11ef-afc0-fb68a5fd9b2c.html

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@AverageJoe1 said
A most ‘unfair’ take on the concept of capitalism. You will admit you left things out. Tell us how it happens many of the billionaires (Jobs, Schultz, Bezos) started with $5 in their garages. Can you say there is NO opportunity? No freedom, independence and liberty? There is. But the countries of other systems, little feller, don’t have that. You can become a (greedy) bil ...[text shortened]... o any of his pie. Buy stock in Amazon, or go throw darts with Shav. Can you write a meaningful post?
Can you?

All you ever post about is "white people's problems". Do you realize that more than half the country is even worse off?

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@AverageJoe1 said
Well, for example, do some people, who work harder than others, get to 'save up' that which they have worked for, or does the government have some interest in the use of said work products? Do other people, who have less than the hard worker, actually share in the use of said products?
This is a fair question by a person who cannot define communism.
Note that not one of you turkeys dealt with this unanswerable question. I ask good questions, so I can be satisfied at least with that.

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@Suzianne said
Can you?

All you ever post about is "white people's problems". Do you realize that more than half the country is even worse off?
Start a thread on it, very interesting. Who are you comparing whom to? You can start by answering my question that I just posted. This is difficult for you, esp when your matriarch Kamala says that 'At the end of the day, we all need to end up in the same place." Do you believer that, little feller?
Do you believe that at the end of the day we should all end up in the same place? Me, who has worked non-stop. for a long time, in the same place as Shav, who has talked up getting 20-hour work weeks?
Or, can you tell me if it is faaaaaaaaaiiiiir for me if Shav and I end up in the same place?

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Suzianne, Esq. will not answer this question.

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@AverageJoe1 said
Start a thread on it, very interesting. Who are you comparing whom to? You can start by answering my question that I just posted. This is difficult for you, esp when your matriarch Kamala says that 'At the end of the day, we all need to end up in the same place." Do you believer that, little feller?
Do you believe that at the end of the day we should all end up ...[text shortened]... s?
Or, can you tell me if it is faaaaaaaaaiiiiir for me if Shav and I end up in the same place?
What is distinctly UNfair is that you think you deserve more, just because you're, well, you.

And I'm not going to tell you again: I'm not a "feller", and I'm not your "sis". You can stop referring to me in such a familiar way. You do not know me. You have nothing in common with me.

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@AverageJoe1 said
Note that not one of you turkeys dealt with this unanswerable question. I ask good questions, so I can be satisfied at least with that.
@AverageJoe1 said
Well, for example, do some people, who work harder than others, get to 'save up' that which they have worked for, or does the government have some interest in the use of said work products? Do other people, who have less than the hard worker, actually share in the use of said products?
This is a fair question by a person who cannot define communism.


All I know is that the majority of people in this country, who ALL work harder than you do, ALL have less than you do, at least by your own estimation. Perhaps you'd like to attempt to explain how this is fair or right.

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@Suzianne said
@AverageJoe1 said
Well, for example, do some people, who work harder than others, get to 'save up' that which they have worked for, or does the government have some interest in the use of said work products? Do other people, who have less than the hard worker, actually share in the use of said products?
This is a fair question by a person who cannot define communism.


...[text shortened]... t least by your own estimation. Perhaps you'd like to attempt to explain how this is fair or right.
You speak of common labor, but we are beyond that. If you and Marauder and MB had held Henry Ford back, to just welding machinery, we would not have cars today.
So, in doing what Ford did, he made a lot of money by telling people what to do, and investing, risking. He did not sweat, but carried a weight of stress, which is something worth something.
So, give us a middle ground, Suzianne. We have gotten this far. He made much more than the men who built the cars.
so, the big question, how do you think things should have turned out in that scenario? Should Ford have been able to run with it, as well as Rockefeller and Carnegie ? Or should govt restrictions and controls tightened their fortunes up a tad. How much tad? How much control? Like, maybe no-nothing bureaucrats telling this geniuses how to do their business?
What if it would have been a Biden type? Or a Reagan type?

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@Suzianne said


And I'm not going to tell you again: I'm not a "feller", and I'm not your "sis". You can stop referring to me in such a familiar way. You do not know me. You have nothing in common with me.
I could be clever, blah blah, but really, you did say a while back that the word 'guy' applies to girls as well as boys. Since this is a debate point-making venue, I naturally took that to mean that if a girl is a guy, then it would follow that a girl is a fellow. So in humor, I thought I would just have fun with it. We conservatives are in the minority here, so we make points when we can.
I will be a good fellow and not refer to you as a fellow anymore. I still have a pronoun problem, though, I am only trying to keep up with wokeism. You seem to have a handle on that.
Please respond to me on that query about successful businessmen, and tie it in to Jeff Bezos and Fred Smith. I assume you know who Fred Smith is, he wrote a term paper in college about a parcel delivery service, and made an F on it!!

TIL the story of FedEx's founder, Frederick Smith ...

Reddit · r/todayilearned
30+ comments · 5 years ago
TIL the story of FedEx's founder, Frederick Smith, submitting his business plan as a term paper and receiving a failing grade with an admonition ...

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@Earl-of-Trumps
Not even CLOSE to 'nuff said'. Trump is planning coup # 2, Jan 6 was just the rehearsal and if he is reelected, as much as you think our democracy is safe and strong and Trump would never succeed, you are forgetting the dark forces, dudes who HATE democracy and WANT us to turn authoritarian, those types have been around before and never really went away, they tried the Nazi thing directly in '30s and we defeated them back then but now the danger is a hundred times more organized and much more dangerous than any time in American history and people like you keeping your eyes wide shut are the ones who will let it happen by your inaction.
Even if Trump is defeated, like the 50 year push by evangelicals to kill Roe V Wade, the anti democracy forces are with us but stronger than any other time in our history. They never left, just biding their time till a possible real fascist like Trump captured some 80 million people, totally duped thinking he actually gives a crap about common folk. Totally wrong about that and they may find out too late we lose freedom after freedom, starting right now with the defeat of Roe V Wade, that is just the first shot over the bow, they will go after making being gay illegal, then pass laws banning protests of any kind, then restricting travel between states and more.

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@sonhouse
... you are forgetting the dark forces, dudes who HATE democracy and WANT us to turn authoritarian

Dude, anyone that is objective knows that it is the LEFTISTS that tend to be authoritarian than rightists

Case in point: In the last two years of Trumps term, he allowed people to choose whether or not to get the vax.
YOU called Trump a murderer
Then came your DICTATOR God, Biden, who forced people to vax, and to this day, young healthy people are dying.
YES, Biden is a murderer

Do you seer the difference now? Leftists are authoritarian.

Also, Trump lowered taxes. and now. Biden is about to raise them

what else do you need to know

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@Earl-of-Trumps said
@sonhouse
... you are forgetting the dark forces, dudes who HATE democracy and WANT us to turn authoritarian

Dude, anyone that is objective knows that it is the LEFTISTS that tend to be authoritarian than rightists

Case in point: In the last two years of Trumps term, he allowed people to choose whether or not to get the vax.
YOU called Trump a mur ...[text shortened]...

Also, Trump lowered taxes. and now. Biden is about to raise them

what else do you need to know
Ask SHouse if Biden’s dictating the payment of tuitions was the act of a dictator.

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