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@AverageJoe1 saidAverageJoe: "I think absolutely everything about [communism] is 100%b bad."
Yes,, why indeed do you and Spruce write that the pooling of money (taxation) is an acceptable way to provide commonly used resources such as roads, schools,hospitals. It can be called sociallism, everyone in the world, in the world, knows that. No points for you and Spruce.
But what is the point of your writing it? It is a given. What if write to you that if wer ...[text shortened]... ut I cannot imagine what it might be. I do recommend my 'lake' analogy if you would like to use it.
Spruce: "All American families are communist"
AverageJoe: "WHAT IS THE POINT OF WRITING?!? WHY ARE YOU ANSWERING MY QUESTIONS?! WHY DOES IT RAIN!? WHY ARE THERE LAKES?!? AHHHHHHH!!!"
The things I have to put up with. 😀
Communism doesn’t kill and oppress people, people do!
Communism like all theoretically utopian systems falls foul of human nature
Capitalism however, is the only theoretically utopian system that has greed, self interest along with absolute and relative poverty as essential elements for, and of, .its success.
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@AverageJoe1 saidAJ is clearly a very deep thinker.
For me, I think absolutely everything about it is 100%b bad.
What say you?
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@spruce112358 saidI could do just fine without AJ's shouting at clouds.
AverageJoe: "I think absolutely everything about [communism] is 100%b bad."
Spruce: "All American families are communist"
AverageJoe: "WHAT IS THE POINT OF WRITING?!? WHY ARE YOU ANSWERING MY QUESTIONS?! WHY DOES IT RAIN!? WHY ARE THERE LAKES?!? AHHHHHHH!!!"
The things I have to put up with. 😀
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@kevcvs57 saidA most ‘unfair’ take on the concept of capitalism. You will admit you left things out. Tell us how it happens many of the billionaires (Jobs, Schultz, Bezos) started with $5 in their garages. Can you say there is NO opportunity? No freedom, independence and liberty? There is. But the countries of other systems, little feller, don’t have that. You can become a (greedy) billionaire in 3 months here…..not so in Somalia, Romania, et al.
Communism doesn’t kill and oppress people, people do!
Communism like all theoretically utopian systems falls foul of human nature
Capitalism however, is the only theoretically utopian system that has greed, self interest along with absolute and relative poverty as essential elements for, and of, .its success.
Please complete your post, level the field, Thankyou. Oh, as to the pie? Make your own pie. When Bezos made his pie, you had no right to any of his pie. Buy stock in Amazon, or go throw darts with Shav. Can you write a meaningful post?
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@kevcvs57 saidExplain this. If someone, say in Toledo, or across the street, is greedy or self-interested (whatever that means), what has that got to do with you. I have asked this before, what has it got to do with you?
Communism doesn’t kill and oppress people, people do!
Communism like all theoretically utopian systems falls foul of human nature
Capitalism however, is the only theoretically utopian system that has greed, self interest along with absolute and relative poverty as essential elements for, and of, .its success.
No one will answer.
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@AThousandYoung saidYou refer to my saying communism is 100% bad. What part of it, other than the fact that citizens seem to get 3 free square meals a day, is good?
AJ is clearly a very deep thinker.
Include the free concept in your answer? Conservative Capitalists would open ANY symposium by discussing ‘free’. 🤔
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@AverageJoe1 said100% employment.
You refer to my saying communism is 100% bad. What part of it, other than the fact that citizens seem to get 3 free square meals a day, is good?
Include the free concept in your answer? Conservative Capitalists would open ANY symposium by discussing ‘free’. 🤔
Good health and safety regulations on the work floor.
Everyone has access to healthcare.
People own what they produce and have an equal say in its distribution.
Education is free at the point of delivery
The methodology of business planning is used by the state, including PDCA-cycles to evaluate and adjust to changes in what is needed and wanted.
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@shavixmir saidThe solution is a free society, where the shag doodys can get together with other shag doodys form shag doody groups and test their ideas.
100% employment.
Good health and safety regulations on the work floor.
Everyone has access to healthcare.
People own what they produce and have an equal say in its distribution.
Education is free at the point of delivery
The methodology of business planning is used by the state, including PDCA-cycles to evaluate and adjust to changes in what is needed and wanted.
The problem for shag doody is he wants to use goobermint thugs to force his dream feelings on his fellow man, specifically his fellow men that do not share his delusions. Shag doody's ideas are so great the only way to make them happen is through the force of the state.
Shag doody, abandon your current parasite position, start your own voluntary community, implement your own PDCAs using your own resources which you freely share with other shag doodys in your group. Put your money where your mouth is. Report back here in 5 years.
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@Wajoma saidCow.
The solution is a free society, where the shag doodys can get together with other shag doodys form shag doody groups and test their ideas.
The problem for shag doody is he wants to use goobermint thugs to force his dream feelings on his fellow man, specifically his fellow men that do not share his delusions. Shag doody's ideas are so great the only way to make them happe ...[text shortened]... other shag doodys in your group. Put your money where your mouth is. Report back here in 5 years.
Fart.
Wayoma typing.
Seriously. You are so stupid, it’s a wonder you can even get out of your gimp cage.
Your narrow definitions of property and the role of government are absurdly unworkable.
Oh yes, you may want to return to the feudal system (for that’s roughly what you propagate) , but it was intervened with for reasons, obviously beyond your comprehension.
So, do one and all a favour, crawl back to your gimp cage and get buggered by koalas.
With all seriousness it sounds extremely bleak.
Answer this. If your society were this way, would the daily rapport amongst all of these ‘equal’ people be such that gaiety and laughing, an air of bliss and total satisfaction as an individual*, be their lot in life.? May I build a boat, a yacht, in my back yard for my family to sail many ports? Would there be any iota of freedom, liberty from govt?
That last one will be prickly.
*Individual? Forget it. We will all be joined, even Shav, Suzianne and me.
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@AverageJoe1
If I find a gold ingot under a sheep waste, and hide it for MYSELF unknown to others, would I be fined or punished when discovered. And what would happen to the gold ingot? Would it be mine.?
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@AverageJoe1 saidThat happens already AJ, the state claims anything below a certain depth, if you find it they want a piece of it, and that's beside tax. That's what Aus has got going for it, no matter how bad the goobermint cock it up, someone digs another hole, iron ore, coal, gold, uranium, the goobermint has their hand out.
@AverageJoe1
If I find a gold ingot under a sheep waste, and hide it for MYSELF unknown to others, would I be fined or punished when discovered. And what would happen to the gold ingot? Would it be mine.?
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@AverageJoe1
And if he didn't do his 'dictating' and just went out and played golf like Trump does all the time, you would bitch about that too, doesn't matter what Biden does or doesn't do you bitch about it because he is a cursed democrat.
If Biden was republican you would be singing his praises.