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    I thought China's demographic imbalance would prove to be its greatest hurdle on the path to hegemonic influence.
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    @vivify said
    https://www.un.org/en/genocideprevention/documents/atrocity-crimes/Doc.1_Convention%20on%20the%20Prevention%20and%20Punishment%20of%20the%20Crime%20of%20Genocide.pdf

    Article II of the United Nation's Genocide Convention, states genocide includes:

    "Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group".

    China's forced sterilization of Uighurs fits that criteria for genocide.
    Duchess dodged this post twice. Her silence is clear proof she knows she's been refuted.

    I'm done here.
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    @vivify said
    America has acknowledged crimes committed in Guantanamo and even pledged to close it. China still denies their crimes against Uighurs.
    This could be argued to be the strongest aspect of democracy: the ability to acknowledge its own wrongs and progress.

    Non-democratic countries generally cannot hope to do this.
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    There have been multiple independent reports of genocide from the Associated Press, a well-respected publication, the Newsline Institute (which was credible enough for the Guardian to cite), the U.S. government and from Uighur Muslims themselves:

    https://www.aljazeera.com/features/2018/9/10/escape-from-xinjiang-muslim-uighurs-speak-of-china-persecution

    Duchess once claimed that we should "believe women" when they come forward about sexual assault; Yet Duchess has no problem calling Uighur women liars when they report rape, torture and being forcibly sterilized by the Chinese.

    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/asia/china-uighur-women-rape-b1796945.html

    I waiting for the next time Duchess calls someone sexist for not believing a rape victim's testimony while scoffing at the testimonies of Muslim women coming forward about China.
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    Unlike the U.S., China refuses to even acknowledge their wrongs against Muslims. Duchess. Duchess has no argument to cling to.

    NOW I'm done.
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    @shavixmir said
    This thread is about why Moslim nations are not more critical of China.

    Why does the US pop up in every single reply?

    Chinese government tactics aimed at deflecting from any form of critique.
    Bingo!
    It's what Duchess64 does.
    Free of charge.
    Free of consequence.
    We pay, for her privilege to divert.
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    Multiple reports by varying sources, speaking with thousands of people, using official government information and comprised of many international researchers and observers all draw the same conclusions.

    I still ponder if genocide is an appropriate term (although, technically it actually is, but in spirit I would consider this ethnic cleansing).
    But no matter how you bend definitions, what’s happening in reality is atrocious.
    And anyone defending the Chinese position on this is denying the suffering of hundreds of thousands of Chinese women.

    A BBC report:
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/resources/idt-sh/China_hidden_camps

    Referring to the Amnesty report:
    https://www.google.nl/amp/s/www.aljazeera.com/amp/news/2021/3/19/amnesty-decries-tragedy-of-uighur-family-separation-in-xinjiang

    https://www.amnesty.org.uk/chinas-uighur-muslims-truth-behind-headlines

    Newlines Institute for Strategy and Policy report (50 independent international experts worked on the report for them):
    https://newlinesinstitute.org/wp-content/uploads/Chinas-Breaches-of-the-GC3.pdf

    Referring to a different report:
    https://www.google.nl/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/jan/09/china-forced-sterilizations-feminist-rebrand

    https://apnews.com/article/269b3de1af34e17c1941a514f78d764c

    https://www.google.nl/amp/s/www.bbc.com/news/amp/world-asia-china-53220713
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    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-56487162

    Several Western countries have imposed sanctions on officials in China over rights abuses against the mostly Muslim Uighur minority group.
    China has detained Uighurs at camps in the north-west region of Xinjiang, where allegations of torture, forced labour and sexual abuse have emerged.
    The sanctions were introduced as a coordinated effort by the European Union, UK, US and Canada.
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