Originally posted by purclecow"If god gave people free will,why do they have to go to church and worship him?"
Why do they put holes in biros?
What came first; the chicken or the egg?
where is the lost city of atlantis?
Why are spare rigs called spare ribs?
If god gave people free will,why do they have to go to church and worship him?
Questiond that need answers.
If you love your wife would you then say that you've lost your free will wanting to do things that will make her happy ?
Originally posted by ivanhoeI suppose...but i hope i don't need a wife being a girl n all. but i get the point,thanks
"If god gave people free will,why do they have to go to church and worship him?"
If you love your wife would you then say that you've lost your free will wanting to do things that will make her happy ?
Originally posted by purclecow
i suppose...what do you suppose laid an egg for a chicken to come out of if it wasn't a chicken?
As Philabit correctly points out, Eggs have been around a lot longer than chickens. Probably at least half a billion (10^9 type billion😀) years longer. Still, I suppose you are asking about the "first chicken egg." IMHO, that is not a coherent question. The question assumes that there was a distinct and atomic "speciation event" that resulted in a single chicken from some pre-chicken population. This is not a reasonable assumption.
A "speciation event" is not really an "event." It is something that takes place over a period of time, in an area rather than an individual location, and affects a population, not an individual organism. What any responsible biologist woulld tell you is that we can safely conclude that some group was isolated from an earlier, ancestral, "pre-chicken" population and was affected by some combination of selection pressure or genetic drift, resulting in a population that became genetically and reproductively isolated from the remainder of the ancestral population. By that time, you have a population of "chickens" but in general, it is impossible to point to a precise moment when a first "chicken" appears.
IOW, the question "which came first, the chicken or the egg?" is not a sensible question. It is syntactically well-formed, but it embodies assumptions that are simply not true. It's much like the "Have you stopped beating your spouse?" question.
HTH,
Paul
Originally posted by purclecowsorry but I do not know what you are talking about?
Why do they put holes in biros?
What came first; the chicken or the egg?
where is the lost city of atlantis?
Why are spare rigs called spare ribs?
If god gave people free will,why do they have to go to church and worship him?
Questiond that need answers.
Originally posted by purclecowThe holes in Biros were put there by Biro (The maker of the ball point pen). It's a logical assumption that to make a fluid leave something, there has to be an entrance for air to take its place. So he created the holes as air-vents.
Why do they put holes in biros?
What came first; the chicken or the egg?
where is the lost city of atlantis?
Why are spare rigs called spare ribs?
If god gave people free will,why do they have to go to church and worship him?
Questiond that need answers.
Obviously they're not needed, because a pen has enough little cracks and things to allow air in anyways. But, it's the thought that counts.
The egg came first. You see, a chicken must come out of an egg, but an egg doesn't necesairly have to come out of a chicken. At one point it would have come out the predecessor to the chicken.
Unless you're religious, then God made a rooster from mud, extracted the wishbone, did a wee chant and then created a hen from it.
Atlantis is presumably lost. But at this moment in time there are diving expeditions off the coast of Cuba, for there seems to be an under water city there. This could be the lost city of Atlantis, but is more likely to be a CIA spy station.
Spare ribs are called so, because the meat on them is sparse. So, the name doesn't actually refer to the bone, but to the meat on the bone.
God didn't create man. Man created God.
Think of a child when it bangs its leg on a table. The child will hit the table and say: "Bad table." the child is actually giving the table a personality. It doesn't yet understand that the chair is a 'thing'.
A long time ago, people were exactly the same. They were starting to communicate with one another on a higher level, and when you develop language you also develop thought. But there were many things they didn't understand, like why the sun came up and then went back down. Why storms came, etc.
So they started giving personality traits to these things they couldn't explain. The sun must be going down for a reason. The storm must be blowing because we did something wrong, etc. etc.
People are gullible little creatures. They swallow any old nonsense thrown their way, as long as it makes their being more bearable. Where there's gullibility there is also people who will make mis-use of it and so priests and things came to being. These people could talk to the forces of nature and influence it. Or so they said. People believed this and these individuals gained in strength. So much so that their powers could quite easily be as influential as the head of a clan/state/group.
The more advanced people became, like understanding the sun, what it is and why it goes to bed at night, led to Gods being adapted and changed. In Western society this ended in a singular God who created all these items.
God didn't write the bible. People did. The bible was written as a message from God by people who claim to work in his name. To increase their hold on society they need a constant form of indoctrination (much like today, where the media is used to sell you a message over and over again). Centralizing worship was the perfect way of getting people together and keeping their thoughts and attitudes straight.
Thanks Shavixmir about the whole God thing. I'm glad there is at least on person in the world who can state authoritativly that they know that there is no God. But, I being on the way to becoming a physicist, must ask that you restate your proof more clearly and add in the evidence which had led you to reach the conclussion that you have enough evidence to state that there is no God. Please.
Originally posted by shavixmir
God didn't create man. Man created God.
You are probably right that man created images of God to explain what he could not explain in an other way. And you are also right that a lot of what was unexplainable in the past can be explained now without the help of a God. But if you leave your beer just a bit longer in the fridge 😉 you may discover that beyond the answered questions new questions arise. Now you can believe that in the end all questions will be answered, but there is nothing that can proof that.
I think it is even reasonable to expect is that the ultimate question is unanswerable. So we always will be able to keep wondering. Now if you want to describe that to God or to something else will remain a very personal choice. There is not even a right or wrong there.
Fjord