Originally posted by Salad45 Oh and add to that the rapes and sexual abuses conducted by US soldiers that is only criminal when conducted by Saddam's sons.
US soldiers commiting crimes like that deserve a fate as bad or worse than Saddam found.
Originally posted by Salad45 BTW... Kurds are like Jews where if you do not gas them when you get the chance more people will die and everyone will end up in a big prison.
please my friend...don't be like that. This world has enough horrors with out impotents spreading hate.
Originally posted by highdraw I'm not sure if the price was too high. What would the price of leaving Saddam and his 2 knucklehead sons in power would have been. If he gassed another couple of towns...would you have been there saying we let Saddam rule there to long we should have done more to oust him?
I agree I think that something should be done about the other awful dictators i ...[text shortened]... whatever action the US takes there are always a sizable group of people there to tear us down.
We don't know what that price of leaving Saddam is power would have been, we do know what the price of invasion was and it isn't pretty. As to him gassing a few more towns, I'd rate that as very unlikely. Take a look at the threads around here about the weapon inspectors, Saddam most likely didn't have any WMD anymore. I know that Uther found a link somewhere talking about small quantities being found from time to time, but that means absolutely nothing, you can still find mustard gas shells from WWI here in Belgium as well.
As for this "If he gassed another couple of towns...would you have been there saying we let Saddam rule there to long we should have done more to oust him?" I'd very much like you to keep your straw-men to yourself. The closest I have ever come of saying anything like that was my comment on this thread about Eastern Congo and that was only to point out that if the USA wants to invade countries for humanitarian reasons, that there are then a whole lot of better options than Iraq.
Originally posted by Barts We don't know what that price of leaving Saddam is power would have been, we do know what the price of invasion was and it isn't pretty. As to him gassing a few more towns, I'd rate that as very unlikely. Take a look at the threads around here about the weapon inspectors, Saddam most likely didn't have any WMD anymore. I know that Uther found a link somewhere ...[text shortened]... es for humanitarian reasons, that there are then a whole lot of better options than Iraq.
It may have been unlikely that he did gas more of his people.....I think it is very likely that he would have continued to abuse his people and that his sons would have continued to rape women.
Again...i do agree that there are some horrible places and situations in this world...and they should all be fixed.....How can we do it? Where do we start? My mind is open...we can debate which place is more horrible....or if there are underlieing reasons for trying to cleanse one awful place before another...but lets stop the dictators from bullying there own people...and don't immediatly jump on the US every single time we try to do something about anything....
Originally posted by highdraw It may have been unlikely that he did gas more of his people.....I think it is very likely that he would have continued to abuse his people and that his sons would have continued to rape women.
Again...i do agree that there are some horrible places and situations in this world...and they should all be fixed.....How can we do it? Where do we start? My m we try to do something about anything....
Has the US ever down anything good in your minds?
It may have been unlikely that he did gas more of his people.....I think it is very likely that he would have continued to abuse his people and that his sons would have continued to rape women.
Yes, that is likely but as bad as it is, it is not a reason to invade a country.
Again...i do agree that there are some horrible places and situations in this world...and they should all be fixed.....How can we do it? Where do we start? My mind is open...we can debate which place is more horrible....or if there are underlieing reasons for trying to cleanse one awful place before another...but lets stop the dictators from bullying there own people...and don't immediatly jump on the US every single time we try to do something about anything....
Rule 1 might be "try not to make it worse", the last decade in Iraq suggests that rule might have been broken here.
Has the US ever down anything good in your minds? You seem to have a bit of a persecution complex.
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