You Obviously Elected a Criminal

@AverageJoe1 said
Whew, I thought you had said totally dismantle.......something like this....

"""So you are ok with Trump totally dismantling Social security,""""

But that is different than the link you sent me. I think you meant to send. link that says totally dismantle, Sonhouse. We are all REALLY busy with all due respects, I am having enough with Marauder's crusade to make us ...[text shortened]... body get rich!! I try to follow him, and then you throw in this gordian knot.
Who's on first!

Why are you seemingly the only person in this forum who has difficulty reading English?

@AverageJoe1 said
But he is president. He was not cited to any extent. The old nothingburger gambit. So you, like Spruce, say nothing.

The 14th Amendment doesn't even say "cited".

Stop trying the change the goalposts.

It says "engaged in". That's all. He doesn't have to be charged or convicted, he just has to have done it. And we all know he did it. We all watched him do it on TV. All those people weren't just breaking the law for the hell of it. He told them to do it.

@spruce112358 said
Insurrectionist, fraudster, manipulator, conman. 😆

Now inside trader and blackmailer (reduce tariffs for "certain companies".) 😆

This doesn't end well, no matter how much the trained seals applaud.

Hanging is too good for him! 😆

At the very least they elected a dumbass.

@Suzianne said
Why are you seemingly the only person in this forum who has difficulty reading English?

Shouse said Trump will 'totally dismantle SS." He is not and he will not. How do you read it, and what do you think Trump will do?

@spruce112358 said
Would you get due process? 😆

Because you are here. And a criminal.

Seems like we could either give you due process or get your criminal a$$ off our land.

Have a preference? 😆

My questoin was......"Am I here illegally?" You totally ignored the question. All of you do that, in every post.

@Suzianne said
The 14th Amendment doesn't even say "cited".

Stop trying the change the goalposts.

It says "engaged in". That's all. He doesn't have to be charged or convicted, he just has to have done it. And we all know he did it. We all watched him do it on TV. All those people weren't just breaking the law for the hell of it. He told them to do it.

Brighter minds have concluded otherwise. Like, the horrible lawyers (jack smith, et al, Bragg et al) who never mentioned it. Only you and SHouse have come up with that one.
Insurrection?? One can be imprisoned for life for that.

@Suzianne said
No, it was law enforcement doing their damned job, unlike anyone in his Cabinet.

This one says that our cabinet secretaries are not doing their ^%^$# jobs.

@AverageJoe1 said
My questoin was......"Am I here illegally?" You totally ignored the question. All of you do that, in every post.

No I didn't. Read the 5th amendment:

"No person shall be ... deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; ..."

PERSON. Not citizen. Not non-immigrant. "No PERSON shall be deprived..."

Are you here? Are you a person? OK then. You shall not be deprived of LIBERTY without due process.

Grade school stuff. You must have been asleep. 😆

You are in a GREAT BIG HURRY to violate due process for some crimes and not others. But we also believe in equal protection. So if we start saying SOME people don't get due process, why should you get it for your "many crimes?" 😆

Google: "The Constitution protects all people living in the United States, regardless of immigration status. Most constitutional provisions apply based on personhood, not citizenship. In other words, if an individual is physically present in the US, they are entitled to the protections granted by the Constitution."

@spruce112358 said
No I didn't. Read the 5th amendment:

"No person shall be ... deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; ..."

PERSON. Not citizen. Not non-immigrant. "No PERSON shall be deprived..."

Are you here? Are you a person? OK then. You shall not be deprived of LIBERTY without due process.

Grade school stuff. You must have been asleep. 😆

Y ...[text shortened]... is physically present in the US, they are entitled to the protections granted by the Constitution."

You take a more liberal stance than I do, that's all. Note that you did not answer my question, am I illegal.
So, in effect you are playing word games, a standard pastime of liberal people. There are many grey areas on the forum, like your wanting to use MY money to pay the tuttions of college grads. Then that thought bleeds into Suzianne's saying that the money used for that is not my money. So that means I can play your game here, and come back with'Well, I am more legal than the gang member illegal who we are actually flying BACK from Columbia!!". There may be other constitutional provisions that can be extrapolated to take exception to the 15M people who wander our streets illegally, and who you liberals support in hotels with our money that Sue says is not our money.
The games with you kids abound. Yes, I agree that the constiitution says that.,, no question. Sickening is your support of those who would take advantage of these provisions in the Constitution to our detriment. Do you really think that our founders were speaking of rapists and murderers who were allowed to trespass and invade by a President? Do you think all of this was envisoned? You know it was not.
That's my story and I am sticking to it. I am I illegal? Would James Madison say that I am illegal? Would he say the gangbangers from another country were legal, or illegal? Word games don't get much traction w AvJoe.
Would you be cool if a guy from another country walkied into your house and sat down? I think your friends here would tell you to live with it.

@AverageJoe1 said

Would you be cool if a guy from another country walkied into your house and sat down? I think your friends here would tell you to live with it.

You mean like the Zionists in Israel did? Or do you mean like Jamestown in 1620? 😆

But you seem to think that has happened recently in New Mexico. Care to tell us where and when? 😆

Oh - right. It hasn't happened in the US, not recently anyway. Not since we moved the "Indians" to "reservations" so that the "savages" wouldn't "bother us." Right, @AverageJoe1?

Or - wait - maybe you mean about the Little Pink House in Connecticut where Susette Kelo had her house seized and demolished by Pfizer to build a plant? Which Pfizer never built? And which SCOTUS later determined was absolutely fine? Do you mean like that - people walking into your house and not just sitting down but tearing it down?

Are you "cool" with any of this? 😆

@AverageJoe1 said
am I illegal.

Due process can tell us. 😆

But you are also a sinner, and you know that damn well, too. 😆

Happy Palm Sunday!

@spruce112358 said
You mean like the Zionists in Israel did? Or do you mean like Jamestown in 1620? 😆

But you seem to think that has happened recently in New Mexico. Care to tell us where and when? 😆

Oh - right. It hasn't happened in the US, not recently anyway. Not since we moved the "Indians" to "reservations" so that the "savages" wouldn't "bother us." Right, @AverageJoe1?

Or ...[text shortened]... nto your house and not just sitting down but tearing it down?

Are you "cool" with any of this? 😆

Would you be cool if a guy walked into your house and sat down? That is all I was asking. Why do libs not answer questions?

@spruce112358 said
Due process can tell us. 😆

But you are also a sinner, and you know that damn well, too. 😆

Happy Palm Sunday!

And to you. I am off to church. Cover for me, will you? And could you answer my question, am I illegal?
Why dont libs answer questions?

@AverageJoe1 said
Shouse said Trump will 'totally dismantle SS." He is not and he will not. How do you read it, and what do you think Trump will do?

When you lose your SS, you let us know.

Same goes for Cliff.

We'll sit and laugh our asses off at you fools for trusting a con man.

@AverageJoe1 said
And to you. I am off to church. Cover for me, will you? And could you answer my question, am I illegal?
Why dont libs answer questions?

I dunno, are you a member of the House of the Holy Hypocrite?