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@rajk999 saidActually, that is what a man named John wrote a century after Jesus died. He wrote that he, John, had a vision, and in his vision, there was no more sea (!) and that He who was seated on the throne, who called Himself the Alpha and Omega, said the quote you refer to.
Here is what Jesus said:
But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death. (Revelation 21:8 KJV)
You have to be awfully superstitious and make a number of logical leaps to believe Jesus was in reality present in John's vision. It does not actually say it was Jesus. In addition the quote does not reference homosexuality.
I reject your claim that Jesus ever said anything about homosexuality.
@kevcvs57 saidKev...
Haha fruit bat.
Take your evil interpretation of right and wrong and shove it where the sun don’t shine you complete misanthrope.
I've been trying to figure you out since day 1. Why are you always so hostile? Jeeeezus
@AThousandYoung said - "I reject your claim that Jesus ever said anything about homosexuality."
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That would be a good test for ChatGPT, eh?
@kevcvs57 saidWhat exactly is evil about it, and what have I interpreted? In case you missed it, homosexuality is an abnormal activity. It has nothing to do with Christianity. In Russia, a country with scarcely any religious influence they do not support or encourage LGBQT etc. Nobody needs religion to tell that it is unnatural for a man to desire a man instead of a woman.
Haha fruit bat.
Take your evil interpretation of right and wrong and shove it where the sun don’t shine you complete misanthrope.
In the USA the native American tribes are still grappling with same sex relationships. They do not like it. The fact that you like it means that something is wrong with you.
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@athousandyoung saidJesus told people that even if they lust over a woman then they have committed adultery in their heart. And you think Jesus supports homosexuality where a man takes another man's dick in his ar$e ?? You are a madman.
Actually, that is what a man named John wrote a century after Jesus died. He wrote that he, John, had a vision, and in his vision, there was no more sea (!) and that He who was seated on the throne, who called Himself the Alpha and Omega, said the quote you refer to.
You have to be awfully superstitious and make a number of logical leaps to believe Jesus was in rea ...[text shortened]... t reference homosexuality.
I reject your claim that Jesus ever said anything about homosexuality.
Marriage is for MAN and WOMAN
And he answered and said unto them, Have ye not read, that he which made them at the beginning made them male and female, And said, For this cause shall a man leave father and mother, and shall cleave to his wife: and they twain shall be one flesh? (Matthew 19:4-5 KJV)
@rajk999 saidGee, it's "unnatural" to fly a thousand miles an hour in a metal container.
What exactly is evil about it, and what have I interpreted? In case you missed it, homosexuality is an abnormal activity. It has nothing to do with Christianity. In Russia, a country with scarcely any religious influence they do not support or encourage LGBQT etc. Nobody needs religion to tell that it is unnatural for a man to desire a man instead of a woman.
In the U ...[text shortened]... lationships. They do not like it. The fact that you like it means that something is wrong with you.
It's "abnormal" to be particularly good at chess.
That someone, even a majority, doesn't like what other people do still doesn't make it any of theirs or the State's business.
@rajk999 saidThat's an anti-divorce quote; it has nothing to do with homosexuality.
Jesus told people that even if they lust over a woman then they have committed adultery in their heart. And you think Jesus supports homosexuality where a man takes another man's dick in his ar$e ?? You are a madman.
Marriage is for MAN and WOMAN
And he answered and said unto them, Have ye not read, that he which made them at the beginning made them male and female ...[text shortened]... nd mother, and shall cleave to his wife: and they twain shall be one flesh? (Matthew 19:4-5 KJV)
So you think the State should ban divorces, too?
@no1marauder saidLike I said before the State is encouraging these sickos to groom peoples kids. Stop pretending you do not know what the problem is. They can marry and live as they please, and indoctrinate their own, but interfering with the children of Christians should not be allowed.
Gee, it's "unnatural" to fly a thousand miles an hour in a metal container.
It's "abnormal" to be particularly good at chess.
That someone, even a majority, doesn't like what other people do still doesn't make it any of theirs or the State's business.
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@no1marauder saidIt is not unnatural for an object to scientifically fly through the sky, or for a flying bird to be aboard such object. You are wrong. The plane is constructed and made by all natural items that come out of the ground.
Gee, it's "unnatural" to fly a thousand miles an hour in a metal container.
It's "abnormal" to be particularly good at chess.
That someone, even a majority, doesn't like what other people do still doesn't make it any of theirs or the State's business.
It is not abnormal to be a chess expert. It is talent, spatial recognitiion, if you will. The same brain has many talents, some better than others. When does a piano player play so well that he is abnormal?
And Churchill said "even fools are right sometimes.' AvJoe says fools are wrong sometimes.
But your last sentence is right, indeed. You are saying what I asay all the time. Why don't libs stay out of our business, you may recall? And, why don't you leave us the hell alone? I knew I could bring you around!
@no1marauder saidThat is a quote that supports the following-
That's an anti-divorce quote; it has nothing to do with homosexuality.
So you think the State should ban divorces, too?
marriage between man and woman
faithfulness except in the case of adultery.
It does not support homosexual unions.
Homosexuality is strongly condemned in many other parts other bible.
@rajk999 saidThe State is doing no such thing by teaching tolerance rather than hatred.
Like I said before the State is encouraging these sickos to groom peoples kids. Stop pretending you do not know what the problem is. They can marry and live as they please, and indoctrinate their own, but interfering with the children of Christians should not be allowed.
If it bothers Christians soooooooooooooo much that the public schools are teaching values consistent with those of a liberal democracy, they can send them to Christian schools.
Personally, I don't believe in mandatory education laws at all but that's a bit off-topic.
@rajk999 saidI'll leave it between you and ATY but you quoted that passage in response to his statement that:
That is a quote that supports the following-
marriage between man and woman
faithfulness except in the case of adultery.
It does not support homosexual unions.
Homosexuality is strongly condemned in many other parts other bible.
ATY: I reject your claim that Jesus ever said anything about homosexuality.
It certainly does not refute that claim.
The Bible, of course, condemns many things that we don't feel necessary to legislate about these days.
@no1marauder saidDo you deliberately misinterpret why grown men put on sexually provocative ( feminine ) clothes and sexually gyrate in front of kids?
The State is doing no such thing by teaching tolerance rather than hatred.
If it bothers Christians soooooooooooooo much that the public schools are teaching values consistent with those of a liberal democracy, they can send them to Christian schools.
Personally, I don't believe in mandatory education laws at all but that's a bit off-topic.
It makes me wonder. Hmmm
Even drag queen story times they dress up ( often ) in a sexually provocative manner, if that is not grooming then what the blazes is it. That's a rhetorical question, you must know that's what it is. And if you do know it is then what does that say about you.
I already can here your claim, " that is not what happens ".
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@rajk999 saidAdultery in a Jewish context is specifically sex with a married woman, not all sex.
Jesus told people that even if they lust over a woman then they have committed adultery in their heart. And you think Jesus supports homosexuality where a man takes another man's dick in his ar$e ?? You are a madman.
Marriage is for MAN and WOMAN
And he answered and said unto them, Have ye not read, that he which made them at the beginning made them male and female ...[text shortened]... nd mother, and shall cleave to his wife: and they twain shall be one flesh? (Matthew 19:4-5 KJV)
https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/adultery
ADULTERY (Heb. נִאוּף, ni'uf; sometimes, loosely, זְנוּת, zenut; זְנוּנִים, zenunim; lit. "fornication, whoredom" ). Voluntary sexual intercourse between a married woman, or one engaged by payment of the brideprice, and a man other than her husband.
Biblical Period
The extramarital intercourse of a married man is not per se a crime in biblical or later Jewish law. This distinction stems from the economic aspect of Israelite marriage: the wife was the husband's possession (of a special sort, see *Marriage), and adultery constituted a violation of the husband's exclusive right to her; the wife, as the husband's possession, had no such right to him.
@jimmac saidWe already went over that incident and it was one for parents who were allowed to bring their children but were under no requirement to do so. The fact that right wingers deliberately distort what happened for propaganda purposes is hardly surprising.
Do you deliberately misinterpret why grown men put on sexually provocative ( feminine ) clothes and sexually gyrate in front of kids?
It makes me wonder. Hmmm
Even drag queen story times they dress up ( often ) in a sexually provocative manner, if that is not grooming then what the blazes is it. That's a rhetorical question, you must know that's what it is. And if you do k ...[text shortened]... is then what does that say about you.
I already can here your claim, " that is not what happens ".
There's no serious evidence anybody was "grooming" anything and any child that was there was under the supervision of their parent(s). Again this is nothing more than puriticanal busy bodies sticking their collective noses into other people's business and telling them what they must do or not do or else.