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@Suzianne said
Are you stupid?

Oh... nevermind.
Presidents rarely write their own speeches. David Frum wrote GW Bush's "axis of evil" speech for example. Do you have any evidence Trump wrote that speech? Ross Worthington and Vince Haley wrote Trump's SOTU speech.

https://www.hindustantimes.com/world-news/us-news/meet-ross-worthington-and-vince-haley-the-men-who-wrote-trumps-sotu-speech-101771982928180.html


@AverageJoe1 said
Iran ain 't no lie. Try comparing all of our leaders and experts and scientists and military, et al et al , planning in the war room................to the people like Solomani (who trump erased), and ayatollah (who Trump erased)
The when you come to a conclusion....think.....why would he have to lie!?!?!? The truth is being televised 24/7!! By those other than him! ...[text shortened]... ion reform
I'm tired.....someone else pick up the rest of the list. easily available on google
You must be as delusional as Trump. He has lied so many times about the Iran war I cannot keep count. Remember when he said Iran had no air defenses?

https://www.presstv.ir/Detail/2026/04/03/766281/black-day-us-israeli-air-forces-iran-downs-2-fighter-jets-2-missiles-3-drones-single-day

Name 3 things Trump said about the Iran war that was true. He will not even admit the real number of Americans he got killed.

https://theintercept.com/2026/04/01/iran-war-us-casualty-numbers-trump-hegseth/

And how about "the war is over'? Did he say that to try to get Iran to stop bombing so he could end his losing war like last time? Was he hoping for another 12 day war? He is just embarrassing us.

MORE IMPORTANTLY, he is embarrassing you. The more he lies the more you have to lie to defend him.

Solomani made fun of Trump over and over again. It was a personal killing. He could not take the constant ridicule.

https://www.newsweek.com/qassem-soleimani-mocked-donald-trump-cabaret-owner-gambler-warned-us-threaten-iran-1480209


Trump does not have to lie!!!

He promised conservative SCOTUS judges
He promised tax cuts
He promised to move the US Embassy to Jerusalem
He promised to reduce regulations
He promised to withdraw from international agreements
He promised to renogotiate NAFTA
He promised to close the border
He promised to reform criminal justice
He promised to reduce inflation
He promised energy
He promised education reform
Easy to promise.
Only deluded MAGA supporters with half a brain cell between them would actually believe him.


@Pianoman1
Another lie about inflation.

In a speech at the World Economic Forum in Davos, Switzerland, President Donald Trump said that the U.S. has “virtually no inflation” and that “grocery prices, energy prices, airfares, mortgage rates, rent and car payments are all coming down.”

https://www.cnbc.com/2026/01/21/trump-inflation-defeated.html


@Suzianne said
"Screw us over".

How so?

How many NATO Alliance countries answered W's call to go into Iraq?

It was a pretty big deal at the time.
Mike has a selective memory.

NATO doesn't nothing for us,......Oh err, apart from the whole Gulf war thing. But I don't want to talk about that. I'd rather belittle our allies and complain about them not following Trump blindly into an illegal war based on a lie.


@Metal-Brain said
@Pianoman1
Another lie about inflation.

In a speech at the World Economic Forum in Davos, Switzerland, President Donald Trump said that the U.S. has “virtually no inflation” and that “grocery prices, energy prices, airfares, mortgage rates, rent and car payments are all coming down.”

https://www.cnbc.com/2026/01/21/trump-inflation-defeated.html
Who do y'all like for president in 2028?


@Ghost-of-a-Duke said
Mike has a selective memory.

NATO doesn't nothing for us,......Oh err, apart from the whole Gulf war thing. But I don't want to talk about that. I'd rather belittle our allies and complain about them not following Trump blindly into an illegal war based on a lie.
When you have an ally that is far stronger and has more guts and balls than you, maybe you should be nice and help when its your turn to do so instead of talking rubbish about an illegal war. Why? because the EU lacks the ability to hold off Putin if he decides to strike. You weakling big mouth pussies in Europe need to shut up. Maybe you are good with welfare, but war is not your thing. The EU needs the US because it is just big fat lazy and useless.

If Israel and the US had to wait on permission from a useless organization like the UN to go to war, they might both be destroyed already. Nobody needs permission to go to war against an enemy amassing nukes and threatening annihilation.


@mike69 said
After all we have done for you and you call us a bad Allie. We don’t want Canada, we have enough brain dead liberals already. NATO has complained for years that Canada wasn’t doing their part. The rest is too silly to respond to.
Tell Trump to remember that next time he is looking for help. You talk with your Allies before starting a war. You don't expect them to come to your aid after you have started what many say could be an illegal war, he could be a War Criminal as we type. You have a short memory we have fought and died long side of you in many wars.

-VR


@Very-Rusty said
THINK about what your saying. There is a good reason 5 or maybe even 6 Presidents didn't do it, and you are seeing why now. Iran are more dangerous than anyone gave them credit for. Still shooting American Fighter Planes out of the sky, yet Trump claims to have bombed them back in to the stone ages. What bunch of B.S., and you eat it all up. Those Presidents had good peopl ...[text shortened]... t boots on the ground which will be very dangerous and many American Lives Lost for what???


-VR
Lost for what? For opening the Strait, that is part of this war. YOu and Kamala gonna just let it be a mess or shall we move the world forward? War sometimes wants boots on the ground. The phrase means something. When you are presicent are you going to be sure to never have soldiers in our military?
You want us to do away with soldiers, since you don't want any battles on the ground? But if you just use planes, you will accidentally kill innocent civilians and school children.
No boots ever on the ground? For what, uou ask? To open a blockaded Strait with the world's oil flowing through? Oil is the blood of the planet. You sure you want no soldiers little feller? If you decide no more boots, that means no more soldiers.
I do not get your logic.
Please expound.


@AverageJoe1 said
Lost for what? For opening the Strait, that is part of this war. YOu and Kamala gonna just let it be a mess or shall we move the world forward? War sometimes wants boots on the ground. The phrase means something. When you are presicent are you going to be sure to never have soldiers in our military?
You want us to do away with soldiers, since you don't want any b ...[text shortened]... If you decide no more boots, that means no more soldiers.
I do not get your logic.
Please expound.
It wouldn't be closed if Trump hadn't started the war with Iran without consulting any of the houses or Allies. Now crying for help, there throw him a towel for his tears.

-VR


@Metal-Brain said
@Pianoman1
Another lie about inflation.

In a speech at the World Economic Forum in Davos, Switzerland, President Donald Trump said that the U.S. has “virtually no inflation” and that “grocery prices, energy prices, airfares, mortgage rates, rent and car payments are all coming down.”

https://www.cnbc.com/2026/01/21/trump-inflation-defeated.html
It had been at 9%. (follow me, little feller). In 11 months he took it down to 3 or 4 or whatever. Relative to 9, that is 'virtually' no inflation. It. has NEVER been zero, you see. Relatively he was correct. You must hate Trump.


@Very-Rusty said
It wouldn't be closed if Trump hadn't started the war with Iran without consulting any of the houses or Allies. Now crying for help, there throw him a towel for his tears.

-VR
You are wrong out ot the gate. He did not start it.

Secondly, regardless 'why' it is closed (Why is always irrelevant to me in discussions),,,,,,it is closed. WE need to open it. Are the Ntherlands or Romania or Spain going to open it? Who but us to open it.
Do you want it open? Say no, or sit down, little feller.


@Very-Rusty said
It wouldn't be closed if Trump hadn't started the war with Iran without consulting any of the houses or Allies. Now crying for help, there throw him a towel for his tears.

-VR
The Strait of Hormuz has no effect of significance on US trade. Also Trump was not crying. He just suggested that those who are affected should get off their lazy butts and do something about it. Also when you live in an insignificant country you should really not condemn the actions of bigger countries to which you owe your very existence.


@Rajk999 said
When you have an ally that is far stronger and has more guts and balls than you, maybe you should be nice and help when its your turn to do so instead of talking rubbish about an illegal war. Why? because the EU lacks the ability to hold off Putin if he decides to strike. You weakling big mouth pussies in Europe need to shut up. Maybe you are good with welfare, but war is n ...[text shortened]... . Nobody needs permission to go to war against an enemy amassing nukes and threatening annihilation.
Wait. Isn't your own country overrun by criminal gangs.

Ouch.


@Ghost-of-a-Duke said
Wait. Isn't your own country overrun by criminal gangs.

Ouch.
Yes. We are not condemning the US.
The US has helped us to control these criminal gangs.

Whats your point?