Originally posted by epic0002http://tinyurl.com/3ar3rd
You dont need evidence...just faith...believe it or not as they say...
Take a school history or science text book for example... why do you believe it..because Dr somebody wrote it? They say the moon is 385,000km away....do you believe it..yeah you do...not because you have proof,,because you have faith.
Originally posted by epic0002there's a huge body of literature in the philosophy of science about why it is reasonable to believe in results that have been published in the mainstream scientific literature, bearing in mind that scientific results are always provisional in a sense. once you're familiar with this and in a position to debate the subject knowledgeably, we can proceed. but it would just be frustrating for me to "debate" this with you until you have done this.
You dont need evidence...just faith...believe it or not as they say...
Take a school history or science text book for example... why do you believe it..because Dr somebody wrote it? They say the moon is 385,000km away....do you believe it..yeah you do...not because you have proof,,because you have faith.
Originally posted by Iron Monkeyyou are right..huge bodies of info...mainstream..philosophies..etc. Sounds like majority rules..not facts🙄
there's a huge body of literature in the philosophy of science about why it is reasonable to believe in results that have been published in the mainstream scientific literature, bearing in mind that scientific results are always provisional in a sense. once you're familiar with this and in a position to debate the subject knowledgeably, we can proceed. but it would just be frustrating for me to "debate" this with you until you have done this.
Originally posted by Grampy BobbyWhile I agree with your viewpoint, I think you are simplifying way too much with your 5/90/5 spectrum (and, of course, making up statistics out of thin air). I don't think you can quantify objectively how someone treats you. Often you will perceive it quite differently than the other person. For example, I think in many cases of "ungrateful" children, the children perceive the "good treatment" by their parents as patronising, overprotection, lack of respect for the child's decisions and opinions, or as something done only to buy the love of the child. So they reciprocate the perceived bad treatment they get from their parents. From their point of view, they would fall into the second category, while from the parents' view, it would be the third one.
'5/90/5 Spectrum'
Of all the people in your evolving periphery during an entire lifetime...
* 5% will treat you better than you choose or have the opportunity to
treat them. Your mother or father, maybe a sister or brother as well
as good samaritan strangers along the way will fit in this category.
* 90% will probably treat you about the sa ...[text shortened]... by giving the benefit of
doubt and treating others better than they deserve. Virtue matters.
Originally posted by NordlysOf course it's oversimplified, of necessity, into the comfort zone
While I agree with your viewpoint, I think you are simplifying way too much with your 5/90/5 spectrum (and, of course, making up statistics out of thin air). I don't think you can quantify objectively how someone treats you. Often you will perceive it quite differently than the other person. For example, I think in many cases of "ungrateful" children, the ch ...[text shortened]... d fall into the second category, while from the parents' view, it would be the third one.
parlance of general forum post bites. Otherwise it wouldn't get read.
The key word is 'spectrum'... 5/90/5 are little more than horseback
approximations, which would probably vary in pristine cultures versus
advanced, by continents, hemispheres, etc. Personal experiences
and perceptions also introduce tremendous local/subjective variables.
Pleased you agreed with the viewpoint expressed. This is a first... 🙂
Originally posted by Grampy BobbyThe most effective way to treat people is the old "talk softly but carry a big stick". Read up on the Iterated Prisoner's Dilemma.
'5/90/5 Spectrum'
Of all the people in your evolving periphery during an entire lifetime...
* 5% will treat you better than you choose or have the opportunity to
treat them. Your mother or father, maybe a sister or brother as well
as good samaritan strangers along the way will fit in this category.
* 90% will probably treat you about the sa ...[text shortened]... by giving the benefit of
doubt and treating others better than they deserve. Virtue matters.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prisoner's_dilemma#The_iterated_prisoner.27s_dilemma
Originally posted by AThousandYoungBelieve the "carry a big stick" quote came from Teddy Roosevelt, 26th
The most effective way to treat people is the old "talk softly but carry a big stick". Read up on the Iterated Prisoner's Dilemma.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prisoner's_dilemma#The_iterated_prisoner.27s_dilemma
U.S. President, with reference to a nation's interests and its enemies.
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Originally posted by AThousandYoungi'm glad someone finally mentioned this. the IPD i mean.
The most effective way to treat people is the old "talk softly but carry a big stick". Read up on the Iterated Prisoner's Dilemma.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prisoner's_dilemma#The_iterated_prisoner.27s_dilemma