11 Sep 08
Originally posted by eatmybishopI disagree.
if it had happened in any other country, there would never have been so much world coverage
2,751 people* don't die in such a short span of time every day.
You may not like America or Americans, but please, STFU and give us our day of remembrance.
*This figure doesn't include those who died at the Pentagon, nor those who died on United Flight 93. It only includes those who died at the World Trade Center site.
11 Sep 08
Originally posted by SuzianneRec'd and thank you.
I disagree.
2,751 people* don't die in such a short span of time every day.
You may not like America or Americans, but please, STFU and give us our day of remembrance.
*This figure doesn't include those who died at the Pentagon, nor those who died on United Flight 93. It only includes those who died at the World Trade Center site.
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11 Sep 08
Originally posted by SuzianneRegrettbly they do, its just that we only notice high death rates when they all happen at the same place and time.
I disagree.
2,751 people* don't die in such a short span of time every day.
You may not like America or Americans, but please, STFU and give us our day of remembrance.
*This figure doesn't include those who died at the Pentagon, nor those who died on United Flight 93. It only includes those who died at the World Trade Center site.
http://www.who.int/whosis/database/mort/table1_process.cfm
USA registered deaths in the year 2000 were 2,403,351 which is an average over over 6,500 per day.
Thats just in the USA. Can you imagine the worldwide figures?
Do you remember every large disaster, every large loss of life? When does a shocking event become worthy of remembrance?
No-one is saying don't remember, what they are saying is don't shove it down everyone elses throat every year.
11 Sep 08
Originally posted by SuzianneCan you tell me how many people died in the great Szechuan earthquake and what date it occurred?
I disagree.
2,751 people* don't die in such a short span of time every day.
You may not like America or Americans, but please, STFU and give us our day of remembrance.
*This figure doesn't include those who died at the Pentagon, nor those who died on United Flight 93. It only includes those who died at the World Trade Center site.
11 Sep 08
Originally posted by adramforallNo, they do not.
Regrettbly they do, its just that we only notice high death rates when they all happen at the same place and time.
http://www.who.int/whosis/database/mort/table1_process.cfm
USA registered deaths in the year 2000 were 2,403,351 which is an average over over 6,500 per day.
Thats just in the USA. Can you imagine the worldwide figures?
Do yo ...[text shortened]... don't remember, what they are saying is don't shove it down everyone elses throat every year.
That 6,500+ you quote is an average over a 24-hour period.
On 9-11 we saw over 2,750 people die in an hour and 45 minutes. This is a shocking loss of life in a shockingly short amount of time.
That was my point.
America has not been tragically attacked like this since the attacks on Pearl Harbor, and God willing, never will be again.
And no one is shoving anything down anyone's throat. What we are saying is let us remember, without calling us babies or whiners.
11 Sep 08
Originally posted by darvlayI don't know how many died. but, if you want to start a rememberance thread next may 16th, I will be the first one to acclaim your actions and call the events a horrible tragedy.
Can you tell me how many people died in the great Szechuan earthquake and what date it occurred?
11 Sep 08
Originally posted by darvlay70,000 dead, with estimates between 5 and 10 million left homeless, in China after an 8.0 quake in May of this year.
Can you tell me how many people died in the great Szechuan earthquake and what date it occurred?
I don't have the exact figures, nor the exact date.
I probably would if I were Chinese.
And I'm not about to say to them "Oh, please... grow up", or "Would you quit yammering on about it already?"
11 Sep 08
Originally posted by SuzianneWell said.
70,000 dead, with estimates between 5 and 10 million left homeless, in China after an 8.0 quake in May of this year.
I don't have the exact figures, nor the exact date.
I probably would if I were Chinese.
And I'm not about to say to them "Oh, please... grow up", or "Would you quit yammering on about it already?"
11 Sep 08
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Originally posted by SuzianneSo now we count human lives like the number of fruits ? 50 is as bad as 5000 and vice versa. No one has the right to take a life from poor defensless civilians, no matter if it is in US or in Iraq. The simple truth.
No, they do not.
That 6,500+ you quote is an average over a 24-hour period.
On 9-11 we saw over 2,750 people die in an hour and 45 minutes. This is a shocking loss of life in a shockingly short amount of time.
That was my point.
America has not been tragically attacked like this since the attacks on Pearl Harbor, and God willing, never w ...[text shortened]... anyone's throat. What we are saying is let us remember, without calling us babies or whiners.
I don't like the fact that 2 750 died at WTC that day.
But I do not like the fact that dismembered Iraq children and womans do not get same symphaties while their body parts are placed all over the street altough they only went out to buy something for lunch. Same for Sarajevo when they had embargo on weapons. Do someone even remember what happen in the center of Sarajevo (marketplace) 15 years ago ???
But who cares for small countries.
Machiavelli would be proud with some countries / leaders
11 Sep 08
Originally posted by ivan2908Well said!
So now we count human lives like the number of fruits ? 50 is as bad as 5000 and vice versa. No one has the right to take a life from poor defensless civilians, no matter if it is in US or in Iraq. The simple truth.
I don't like the fact that 2 750 died at WTC that day.
But I do not like the fact that dismembered Iraq children and womans do not get ...[text shortened]... But who cares for small countries.
Machiavelli would be proud with some countries / leaders
11 Sep 08
Originally posted by SuzianneSuzi, you would be one of the few who know this fact. Good for you, I say in all sincerity.
70,000 dead, with estimates between 5 and 10 million left homeless, in China after an 8.0 quake in May of this year.
I don't have the exact figures, nor the exact date.
I probably would if I were Chinese.
And I'm not about to say to them "Oh, please... grow up", or "Would you quit yammering on about it already?"