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Originally posted by chancremechanic
Shape, but not size....am I wrong?
You are correct.

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Originally posted by Crowley
Dude, you're crazy. The players can't be compared.
In both sports players need to be as big, strong and fast as possible, but you can't have all of that and have stamina.

Rugby players need more stamina. These boys are strong, but they're built very tough and have great stamina.

NFL players need more strength and speed. They don't run around as much as rugby players, so they can focus more on size and strength.


End of discussion.
Good point.

But there are the Lomu's, Sailor's, Umanga's and Tuqiri's who are huge and pretty damn quick too. But all in all, i think you've nailed it..

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Originally posted by impatient
If Rugby players are so tough, why havent any made a name in the NFL? How many Rugby players are 6'5", 300 lbs, can bench 500 lbs AND run the 40 in about 4 seconds? That's just an average player in the NFL.

Stand your average NFL player next to your average Rugby player, and you would be scared for the Rugby player. Just because Rugby players are u ...[text shortened]... n Rugby players wouldnt be stupid enough to tackle Shaun Alexander without pads on. Suicide.
There's a lot of truth in this, but rugby players endure far more through the playing of their sport than American football players.

When I said that they are harder I did give the wrong impression of what I meant. I'm not suggesting that they would win all or even most fist fights against American footballers. What I am saying is that they are prepared to suffer far more in the pursuit of their chosen activity.

I don't deny they are stupid either, but hard as nails on the pitch.

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Originally posted by Suzianne
I have to agree on this. One of my lovers in college was a semi-pro cyclist trying to go pro. Not an ounce of fat on him, and talk about stamina... oh my god...


Just my 2 cents worth... carry on guys... nothing to see here... move along... 😀
Only problem for him is that cyclists often tend to burn out by the time they are 40. Many take drugs which destroy their health (not necessarily during their careers) and sadly many former champions are in a poor state of repair today.

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Originally posted by asromacalcio
Professional cyclists are the toughest of ALL. OK, there is a difference between the pain of endurance and the pain of impact, but how many sportsmen and women work, often at levels like 80% of their maximum HR, for up to six hours a day for three weeks, over mountains, down mountains etc?

Somebody may remark that a cyclist wouldn't last two minutes ...[text shortened]... able to take the strain.

Any views on the toughest sports, feel free to state your views.
Sumo.

See what those guys have to eat for breakfast...

Oh, and all those wussies out there who like wrestling? This is sport, not acting.

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Originally posted by c99ux
Sumo.

See what those guys have to eat for breakfast...

Oh, and all those wussies out there who like wrestling? This is sport, not acting.
You obviously have no idea what it takes to be a professional wrestler. I have wrestles with friends, and practiced in an indy circuit ring. You have no idea od the athleticism required to pull off some of the stunts they do.

So I wouldn't call it acting, just glorified stuntmen.

Oh, and you call them wussies to their faces. I've got your back.

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Originally posted by Derfel Cadarn
You obviously have no idea what it takes to be a professional wrestler. I have wrestles with friends, and practiced in an indy circuit ring. You have no idea od the athleticism required to pull off some of the stunts they do.

So I wouldn't call it acting, just glorified stuntmen.

Oh, and you call them wussies to their faces. I've got your back.
Wrestlers are fantastic athletes but that doesn't do much for the plausibility of what they do.

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Originally posted by chancremechanic
"lovers"?...ummm
Do you have a problem with this?

I didn't think so... 🙂

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Originally posted by asromacalcio
Only problem for him is that cyclists often tend to burn out by the time they are 40. Many take drugs which destroy their health (not necessarily during their careers) and sadly many former champions are in a poor state of repair today.
This could be true, I dunno... but look at Lance Armstrong, he seems pretty fit... of course there's probably a difference between 7-time Tour de France winners and the cycling community at large...

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Originally posted by Crowley
I agree, to a degree (Ha! poetry!).

Rugby players are pretty tough guys and I think are fitter than most NFL players because rugby is much more of a 'flowing / dynamic' game than football. Rugby players need to be quicker and have more stamina than the NFL players.
BUT, the NFL boys are much bigger (linebackers?) and stronger than rugby players, because ...[text shortened]... ckled, where those NFL boys get taken out HARD! Around the neck etc. - you need protection.
How fast do rugby players run? Or how big do they get? I know NFL Dbacks run around 4.2sec-4.4sec in a 40 about 180lbs-210lbs. I know little about rugby players.

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Originally posted by c99ux
Sumo.

See what those guys have to eat for breakfast...

Oh, and all those wussies out there who like wrestling? This is sport, not acting.
I would have loved to have seen the late Reggie White take on one of those bag of guts sumo wrestlers.

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Originally posted by Moldy Crow
I would have loved to have seen the late Reggie White take on one of those bag of guts sumo wrestlers.
That would've been fun to watch. Wouldn't last to long though, Reggie would take them out before they got their left theigh in the proper positioning.

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Originally posted by Suzianne
This could be true, I dunno... but look at Lance Armstrong, he seems pretty fit... of course there's probably a difference between 7-time Tour de France winners and the cycling community at large...
He is only 33, but we should consider him an exception in more ways than one.

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Originally posted by c99ux
Sumo.

See what those guys have to eat for breakfast...

Oh, and all those wussies out there who like wrestling? This is sport, not acting.
True wrestling (not the Hulk Hogan stuff) takes a lot of strength and stamina. I wrestled and played football in High School. Wrestling practice was a lot tougher.

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Originally posted by Esoteric
IF NFL players are so tough why havent they made it in Rugby?

Jonah Lomu: Height 1.96m (6ft 5) Weight 125kg (19 st = 266lb); Fastest 100m 10.8 seconds.

James Ryan
Team: Highlanders
Born: February 10 1983
Height: 200cm
Weight: 114kg

Kevin O'Neill
Team: Crusaders
Born: February 24 1982
Height: 201cm
Weight: 114kg

Ross Kennedy
...[text shortened]... who are over 200cm and could bench press a car. Alot of your big NFL players are fat. Very fat.
NFL players dont want to play rugby because:

1) No Challenge and they dont want to kill people
2) No money in it because noone watches it compared to the NFL - obviously NFL is much more interesting.

None of those players you listed are fast enough to play in the NFL - speed is the difference - Rugby player can be big and tough, NFL players are big, stronger, and extremely fast. Those fat guys you speak of can beat 95% of Rugby players in a 100m.