1. Standard memberwolfgang59
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    21 Apr '20 12:13
    @wolfe63 said
    It's difficult to determine its origin, but "its" plural possessive form must be its'. 😉
    A quick research reveals that the possessive - it's - was originally correct.
    (200 years ago)
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    21 Apr '20 12:21
    @wolfgang59 said
    A quick research reveals that the possessive - it's - was originally correct.
    (200 years ago)
    Perhaps we need a "Proper English Forum"?

    -VR
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    21 Apr '20 12:23
    @wolfgang59 said
    "You" was originally 2nd person plural.
    "Thee" was 2nd person singular.

    So
    Thee art drunk!
    Why not 'Thou art drunk'??
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    21 Apr '20 12:24
    @petewxyz said
    Why not 'Thou art drunk'??
    Who the hell says "Thou art drunk" in today's world?

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    21 Apr '20 12:25
    @very-rusty said
    Who the hell says "Thou art drunk" in today's world?

    -VR
    Apparently, not "thee". 😲
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    21 Apr '20 12:28
    @wolfgang59 said
    A quick research reveals that the possessive - it's - was originally correct.
    (200 years ago)
    Ah, but Wolfe is going for plural possessive so you have to somehow construct a sentence in which there are loads of its and they all collectively own something. If this thread becomes about its such that they own the thread you could say 'It's the its' thread' perhaps?
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    @very-rusty said
    Who the hell says "Thou art drunk" in today's world?

    -VR
    You haven't been drinking with enough vicars.
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    21 Apr '20 12:33
    I'm quite tolerant of less than perfect grammar, but when it comes to apostrophes I'd like to toss the lot. And umlauts and the like too. I want a phonetic alphabet, one where c and k never sound the same and spelling isn't such an onerous chore.

    As a child I campaigned for a phonetic alphabet and a logical calendar, one with four 13-week quarters (4,4,5) plus a day or sometimes two days which got special treatment. Of course I never had a chance of getting any of it.
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    @kewpie said
    I'm quite tolerant of less than perfect grammar, but when it comes to apostrophes I'd like to toss the lot. And umlauts and the like too. I want a phonetic alphabet, one where c and k never sound the same and spelling isn't such an onerous chore.

    As a child I campaigned for a phonetic alphabet and a logical calendar, one with four 13-week quarters (4,4,5) plus a day or ...[text shortened]... ometimes two days which got special treatment. Of course I never had a chance of getting any of it.
    Now that reminds me of the classic Python sketch with the guy who can't say c so he uses b instead. It's pointed out to him that he should try using k instead. He concludes, 'I have been a silly bunt'.
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    @kewpie said
    I'm quite tolerant of less than perfect grammar, but when it comes to apostrophes I'd like to toss the lot. And umlauts and the like too. I want a phonetic alphabet, one where c and k never sound the same and spelling isn't such an onerous chore.

    As a child I campaigned for a phonetic alphabet and a logical calendar, one with four 13-week quarters (4,4,5) plus a day or ...[text shortened]... ometimes two days which got special treatment. Of course I never had a chance of getting any of it.
    I agree. Who cares if "i" comes before "e" except after...so many useless rules. Phonetics is the way to go.
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    @petewxyz said
    Why not 'Thou art drunk'??
    Correct.
    I am wrong. 😢

    edit: Have changed the original post to reflect your correction
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    21 Apr '20 12:46
    @kewpie said
    I'm quite tolerant of less than perfect grammar, but when it comes to apostrophes I'd like to toss the lot. And umlauts and the like too. I want a phonetic alphabet, one where c and k never sound the same and spelling isn't such an onerous chore.

    As a child I campaigned for a phonetic alphabet and a logical calendar, one with four 13-week quarters (4,4,5) plus a day or ...[text shortened]... ometimes two days which got special treatment. Of course I never had a chance of getting any of it.
    So no biggy really, you just want to change the English language as it now exists! 😉

    -VR
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    21 Apr '20 12:48
    @petewxyz said
    You haven't been drinking with enough vicars.
    I haven't touched a drink since March 22nd of 1992....FYI!!!

    -VR
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    @very-rusty said
    I haven't touched a drink since March 22nd of 1992....FYI!!!

    -VR
    What a waste of 28 years
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    @wolfgang59 said
    What a waste of 28 years
    Wow....28 years already, couldn't have been better actually!!! 😛

    -VR
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