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12 Aug 20
12 Aug 20
@divegeester saidOverly cautious perhaps, but part of a planned response.
NZ has been impeccable at handling the COVID-19 situation so far.
Wolfgang59 and any other NZ residents is this lockdown a bit of a knee jerk reaction to a small number of cases?
Certainly not a "knee jerk" reaction.
I do feel the public response, here on the South Island, is rather less
sympathetic than the initial lockdown. There is a feeling of "been there,
done that" and everyone wants to move on. We thought we had beaten C-19, ..
12 Aug 20
@wolfgang59 saidYes this is the vibe is part of the UK too although the beach lifers are a law unto themselves anyway.
I do feel the public response, here on the South Island, is rather less
sympathetic than the initial lockdown. There is a feeling of "been there,
done that" and everyone wants to move on. We thought we had beaten C-19, ..
I’m wondering if at the other end of the muddled communication/wooly guidelines spectrum is lockdown fatigue and a casual non compliance. Maybe it’s inevitable.
@wolfgang59 saidProbably Impossible unless you completely close your borders to everyone including those bringing food.
We thought we had beaten C-19, ..
@trev33 saidThe official NZ strategy is "elimination".
Probably Impossible unless you completely close your borders to everyone including those bringing food.
https://www.health.govt.nz/our-work/diseases-and-conditions/covid-19-novel-coronavirus/covid-19-current-situation/covid-19-elimination-strategy-aotearoa-new-zealand
The latest cluster of 15 is under control.
We have had no shortages in food or anything else.
@wolfgang59
Like anywareπ€·βοΈ I got on the bus from Chorley back to Bolton (U.K.) - NEED A MASK. Ok get on & the amount of people without??? FFS...
14 Aug 20
@hells-caretaker saidYou probably won’t get challenged now as businesses are supporting people with special exemption. I see signs up now advising customers not to challenge people not wearing one.
@wolfgang59
Like anywareπ€·βοΈ I got on the bus from Chorley back to Bolton (U.K.) - NEED A MASK. Ok get on & the amount of people without??? FFS...
@wolfgang59 saidNo, two countries on the island with different rules, plus anyone in mainland Britain is free to travel to N. Ireland and then south with any quarantine so really can't compare the two.
Like Ireland?
@divegeester saidIf they were serious about the rule they'd make it illegal not to wear a mask without having a medical exemption card. Not sure about the rest of the UK but here it's up to the individual businesses to enforce the rule, hasn't been a fine on public transport yet and plenty not wearing masks.
You probably won’t get challenged now as businesses are supporting people with special exemption. I see signs up now advising customers not to challenge people not wearing one.
Some people think they can do what they like, and it's best not to challenge them. Either they're medically exempt, or they're nasty people and will take their nastiness out on the challenger. Same goes for other Covid rule breakers.
Our police are everywhere and handing out very big fines, but even that doesn't stop them and at least 3 policemen have ended up needing hospital repairs. One guy has collected ten $1600 fines so far.
@trev33 saidOh I agree.
No, two countries on the island with different rules, plus anyone in mainland Britain is free to travel to N. Ireland and then south with any quarantine so really can't compare the two.
But it could have been possible.
The geographies of Ireland and NZ are similar but not the politics.
(Although there once was a small movement for independence for the South Island)
14 Aug 20
@trev33 saidPretty much the same in the rest of the UK.
Not sure about the rest of the UK but here it's up to the individual businesses to enforce the rule, hasn't been a fine on public transport yet and plenty not wearing masks.
I’ve walked into shops without wearing a mask because I’ve forgotten to put it on and I don’t get challenged; I soon remember and put on but no one bats a COVID eye.