@Suzianne saidThere some really good YT vids about supernovae and how and why they occur. The universe is terrifying and wonderful.
It is, and it is true.
Elements are burned in stars for fuel. Fusion reactions, which result in heavier elements. But it can only get up to iron (Fe) due to how the atoms are structured. That's the final straw, and ALL heavier elements (including the radioactive ones that aren't just isotopes of normal elements) have to be fused in a nova or supernova. The gravity of ...[text shortened]... star becomes overpowered by the repulsion of the atom nuclei and.... BANG! (Or superBANG! I guess)
Also a few good vids on the relative speeds of fictional space craft - if I find the one in particular I’m thinking of I’ll share it.
@diver saidEdit: I posted somethuing two other posters posted before me... Sorry about that.
I find it amazing that several of the heavier elements are only created in a supernova; gold for example.
@Suzianne saidOr we might think, "Hmm, such an interesting coincidence."
Especially considering that on the timeline of the greater cosmos, a human lifetime is a fleeting spark. For one to witness an event of this magnitude, especially considering the tiny window of time we each have, and the immensity of the universe added to the rarity of the event, we can give thanks that such a thing could be revealed while we are able to witness it. It certainly would be amazing.
Also, it's really only humans who are interested in humans. Nobody else is.
@Arkturos saidI was watching a Brian Cox video last night where he was answering a question about finding life elsewhere in the universe. He pointed out that nearest galaxy is about 2 million light years away, edge to edge; so even a comms wave travelling at the speed of light is at least a 4 million year reply cycle. Even communications within our own galaxy could be hundreds of thousands of years there and back at light speed. And that assumes both civilisations co-existing within the slice of time covering billions of years of galactic evolution.
Or we might think, "Hmm, such an interesting coincidence."
Also, it's really only humans who are interested in humans. Nobody else is.
Yeah, we’re on our own in this I think.
@diver saidYes, I've often thought the vast distances necessarily between intelligence-evolving planets must be by design.
I was watching a Brian Cox video last night where he was answering a question about finding life elsewhere in the universe. He pointed out that nearest galaxy is about 2 million light years away, edge to edge; so even a comms wave travelling at the speed of light is at least a 4 million year reply cycle. Even communications within our own galaxy could be hundreds of thousands o ...[text shortened]... f time covering billions of years of galactic evolution.
Yeah, we’re on our own in this I think.
@Suzianne As we have moved off into the likelihood of ohter intelligent life in teh Galaxy it's worth having a look at the Drake Equation
N = R* × fₚ × nₑ × fₗ × fᵢ × fc × L
This was dreamed up by a number of visionaries in the 1960s to give an estimate of the number of civilizations there might be in the Galaxy that are advanced enough to be detectable. We are detectable and having been leaking radio noise into space for a century or so.
If you then think mission like Kepler suggest that most of the Stars, something between 100 and 400 Billon, have planets and that many of them have multiple planets then to possibility is for a vast number of "earth like" planets in the galaxy. Are we on our own.... No chance or at least there's higher chance of me as a beginner at this game of winning one than there is of that lol
@Suzianne saidHumans will eventually overcome it (if it is by design). - Just look at the folly of Babel, where humans were apparently divinely confused by language and scattered across the Earth.
Yes, I've often thought the vast distances necessarily between intelligence-evolving planets must be by design.
We overcame that.
@Ghost-of-a-Duke saidlol
Just look at the folly of Babel, where humans were apparently divinely confused by language and scattered across the Earth.
We overcame that.
i thoroughly disagree
with an exclamation point!
whatever truth there may be behind that myth/parable it continues to this day
i will not bore you with examples of pain and death exacted by humans upon other humans
internet reporting is rife with photos of the blood of both the innocent and the deserving
"wars and rumors of wars"
lol
yeah we overcame that
LOL
humans have never ceased being tribal
we are divided by language, skin color, stature, cuisine and culture
and humans never will
lol
i do appreciate the idealism tho
i doubt you are that naive that you believe yerself
@diver
sorry i've gotten off track
betelgeuse betelgeuse betelgeuse
@rookie54 saidSuzianne would have factored in my atheism and penchant for the fanciful.
lol
i thoroughly disagree
with an exclamation point!
whatever truth there may be behind that myth/parable it continues to this day
i will not bore you with examples of pain and death exacted by humans upon other humans
internet reporting is rife with photos of the blood of both the innocent and the deserving
"wars and rumors of wars"
lol
yeah we overcame that
...[text shortened]... ve that you believe yerself
@diver
sorry i've gotten off track
betelgeuse betelgeuse betelgeuse
@Ghost-of-a-Duke saidHah!
Suzianne would have factored in my atheism and penchant for the fanciful.
There are always extenuating circumstances if one looks hard enough, or even if one deigns to look at all. 🙂