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@rookie54 said
whatever truth there may be behind that myth/parable it continues to this day
i will not bore you with examples of pain and death exacted by humans upon other humans
internet reporting is rife with photos of the blood of both the innocent and the deserving
"wars and rumors of wars"
Only because humans are a thoroughly stubborn species.



"And I thought my Basset was stubborn!" -- Suzi


@denizil said
@Suzianne As we have moved off into the likelihood of ohter intelligent life in teh Galaxy it's worth having a look at the Drake Equation

N = R* × fₚ × nₑ × fₗ × fᵢ × fc × L

This was dreamed up by a number of visionaries in the 1960s to give an estimate of the number of civilizations there might be in the Galaxy that are advanced enough to be detectable. We are detecta ...[text shortened]... east there's higher chance of me as a beginner at this game of winning one than there is of that lol
Yes, I'm aware of this equation, but my point was that these few planets that have evolved intelligence are too far from each other simply because the universe is so vast. By the time a signal gets to them and back, we would have probably gone extinct.

Yes, they may be out there, but we will probably never know, and that is probably a good thing.

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@diver said
Also a few good vids on the relative speeds of fictional space craft - if I find the one in particular I’m thinking of I’ll share it.
Please do, love to see them. 🙂


@Suzianne said
Please do, love to see them. 🙂
There’s quite a few; this is one of my faves on relative sizes.

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More thread drift …

I watched ‘Martian’ again the other night; one of my go to movies which seems to have it all, including just the right amount of stretched silliness.

And despite said silliness, the only thing which grates every time I watch it is when he’s digging up the old communications unit a few miles away and it’s completely buried. Then in the next cut the top is sticking three feet above the level of the surrounding sand.

(I’m a continuity freak)


@diver said
There’s quite a few; this is one of my faves on relative sizes.

https://youtu.be/tG8uC24Gbos
i wanted to write words of gratitude to you for sharing this
not just a thumb
for this is a rarity

a video that is worth watching


@diver
Yeah, I get that. Being sad and bored I was watch harry Potter 3 the other day and was put out by the triple decker bus entering lambeth bridge from the north side heading south, I used to work in the building next to it so I know it well. it cut to the inside of the bus then cut to the bit where it squeeezes between two other buses... the problem here was the bus was now coming North from the south side of the bridge! Irritating.

There's also an edit in in The Revenant where they have moved the Pleiades into Orion... looked nice but that bugged me on the IMAX lol

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@Suzianne said
Yes, I'm aware of this equation, but my point was that these few planets that have evolved intelligence are too far from each other simply because the universe is so vast. By the time a signal gets to them and back, we would have probably gone extinct.

Yes, they may be out there, but we will probably never know, and that is probably a good thing.
It could be that advanced species become post-incarnate and essentially evaporate, or even if they can somehow maintain individual coherence and jaunt around the Cosmos instantly for the sake of observation and appreciation, they might come to a point where they decide to just let go.

As for 3I/Atlas, maybe one beneficial possibly is that as it comes closer, a bunch of people other than Avi Loeb might think: "Oh, yeah, that's artificial all right." (Sidenote: If that is the case, I think a close-up image of 3I/Atlas should be worked into the cover image for the centenary issue of Amazing Stories next spring.)

However, even if it slowed down enough for an expedition from Earth to attempt to board it, I think that would be a very bad idea -- their unknown tech might fry or otherwise mess with the boarding party within moments.


@Arkturos said
It could be that advanced species become post-incarnate and essentially evaporate, or even if they can somehow maintain individual coherence and jaunt around the Cosmos instantly for the sake of observation and appreciation, they might come to a point where they decide to just let go.

As for 3I/Atlas, maybe one beneficial possibly is that as it comes closer, a bunch of pe ...[text shortened]... y bad idea -- their unknown tech might fry or otherwise mess with the boarding party within moments.
I'm not sure how to tell you this. but reality is not a sci-fi story.


@diver said
More thread drift …

I watched ‘Martian’ again the other night; one of my go to movies which seems to have it all, including just the right amount of stretched silliness.

And despite said silliness, the only thing which grates every time I watch it is when he’s digging up the old communications unit a few miles away and it’s completely buried. Then in the next cut the top is sticking three feet above the level of the surrounding sand.

(I’m a continuity freak)
Coincidence.

I watched this again last weekend myself.


@diver said
There’s quite a few; this is one of my faves on relative sizes.

https://youtu.be/tG8uC24Gbos
Incredible!


@rookie54 said
i wanted to write words of gratitude to you for sharing this
not just a thumb
for this is a rarity

a video that is worth watching
Yeah thanks rookie.

I thought the Jupiter 2 should have been larger given the many terrestrial scenes in the series.
Liked the passenger jet flybys.

I love stuff like this.



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Quite well, thank you.


@Suzianne said
Yes, I've often thought the vast distances necessarily between intelligence-evolving planets must be by design.
So that they wouldn't crowd each other's mental gardens?