Originally posted by XanthosNZI share your point of view, and hence I would like someone who doesn't to try convince me otherwise from a scientific point of view.
There is no such thing as an impartial book on Evolution vs. Creationism. There are books on Evolution and there are books that are wrong.
Maybe I share your point of view because I've only read books that favour Evolution and in my view any reasoning, intelligent person would take regard the scriptures version with scepticism. Short of the Scriptures, I can't think of any books that favour creationism without a wanton need for blind faith (Did I say short of the Scriptures... My bad).
I’m looking for an intelligent and reasoning book.
I don’t think the Bible or Qu’raan etc fall in that category.
Does there exist such a book?
Originally posted by SeitseIt's only natural to have biases surely.
I knew the fratello in you would jump 😵 Don't worry, I won't headbutt you, lol
Yes I have. Then again, you already said what's your bias, so there is no need to discuss nor read the basic books. You already made up your mind.
I'm giving you the opportunity to change my mind.
If you can convince me to read something worthwhile, I assure you I will do so with an open mind.
If I've made up my mind, I wouldn't bother trying to expand it would I?
So please.... help me out.
You've also sparked my curiosity now.
What are the differnces in the Biblical and Qu'raanic versions of creation??
Originally posted by SeitseTake your Creationism stupidity to Spirituality where it belongs. Perhaps Kelly Jay will welcome another brain washed acolyte.
I knew the fratello in you would jump 😵 Don't worry, I won't headbutt you, lol
Yes I have. Then again, you already said what's your bias, so there is no need to discuss nor read the basic books. You already made up your mind.
Originally posted by ASROMAI've not read this, but am thinking of doing so: 'Evolution as a Religion' by philosopher Mary Midley, which might be interesting for you and several other contributors to this thread.
Can anyone please recommend good books on the following subjects:
Creationism vs evolution
Science and religion (Notice I cunningly used the word 'and' as opposed to 'vs', as I'm sure there are authors that feel they aren't tangential and those that feel they are.)
In both these categories, I would prefer reading unbiased publications.
Books on phil ...[text shortened]... beginner, but I'd like to add to my collection)
Thanking any responders in advance.
Originally posted by XanthosNZI hate the way you are either with them or against them.
Take your Creationism stupidity to Spirituality where it belongs. Perhaps Kelly Jay will welcome another brain washed acolyte.
I'd only be too happy to recommend reading material to anyone who wanted to learn about something I felt strongly about.
But because I've stated I'm sceptical, I'm already doomed.
It does nothing but reinforces the notion that faith is indeed an irrational leap.
A good book on the philosophy of science is Thomas Kuhn's, "The Structure of Scientific Revolutions". It's an excellent response to Popperian inspired texts about an idea of science being a continuing and progressive development.
If you are looking for primers in Western Philosophy, may I recommend the following:
Plato, "The Republic"
Aristotle, "Politics"
St Thomas Aquinas, "Summa Theologica"
Machiavelli, "The Prince", and to understand the man better, "Discourses upon the first ten books of Titus Levy" (Sometimes just called discourses or ten discourses).
Thomas Hobbes, "Leviathan"
John Locke, "An Essay Concerning Human Understanding"
Immanuel Kant," A Critique of Pure Reason"
David Hume, "A Treatise of Human Nature"
GWF Hegel, "The Phenomenology of Mind"
Karl Marx, "Karl Marx: Selected Writings" by David McLellan
Friedrich Nietzsche, "Thus Spoke Zarathustra"
John Rawls, "A Theory of Justice"
Jurgen Habermas, "Between Facts and Norms"
I am afraid I have two confessions to make here. Firstly, it has been ten years since I looked at any of these texts and secondly, I am completely ignorant of eastern philosphical thought.
Originally posted by demonseedAlso you don't realise that RHP has only bold and italic and link tags. None of this fancy underline or strikethrough.
A good book on the philosophy of science is Thomas Kuhn's, "The Structure of Scientific Revolutions". It's an excellent response to Popperian inspired texts about an idea of science being a continuing and progressive development.
If you are looking for primers in Western Philosophy, may I recommend the following:
Plato, "The Republic"
Aristotle, "Po ...[text shortened]... ondly, I am completely ignorant of eastern philosphical thought.
Zhuangzi by Zhuangzi is a great book on eastern philosophy (Taoism)
Here's a beautiful excerpt:
"One day about sunset, Zhuangzi dozed off and dreamed that he turned into a butterfly.
He flapped his wings and sure enough he was a butterfly...
What a joyful feeling as he fluttered about, he completely forgot that he was Zhuangzi.
Soon though, he realized that that proud butterfly was really Zhuangzi who dreamed he was a butterfly, or was it a butterfly who dreamed he was Zhuangzi!
Maybe Zhuangzi was the butterfly, and maybe the butterfly was Zhaungzi? "
(Note that if you google the books you can probably find free e-books on the web since the copyright on these books have expired or never exited at all.)