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Originally posted by CCNoob
Tell me why Linux/Unix which are not susceptible to windows viruses, do not encourage their users to run as admin? A lollipop for the correct answer.
Because 80% of their users are useless, computer illiterate gimps that have only installed it because it's free and they'd end up destroying the OS if they had that level of access?

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Originally posted by Daemon Sin
Because 80% of their users are useless, computer illiterate gimps that have only installed it because it's free and they'd end up destroying the OS if they had that level of access?
rm -r /

OOPS! I thought I was in the correct folder!

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Windows PCs are so insecure that you cannot know how people's email login details were stolen and posted on the web. A fully patched windows pc is still susceptible to 0 day exploits and if you reinstall your pc and surf the net you will get automatically infected. Look at all those fake antivirus sales that they target at windows users, they sold more fake antiviruses than legit antivirus.

Here are vista exploits.
http://www.istartedsomething.com/20070206/more-vista-exploits/

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Originally posted by CCNoob
Windows PCs are so insecure that you cannot know how people's email login details were stolen and posted on the web. A fully patched windows pc is still susceptible to 0 day exploits and if you reinstall your pc and surf the net you will get automatically infected. Look at all those fake antivirus sales that they target at windows users, they sold more fake a ...[text shortened]... us.

Here are vista exploits.
http://www.istartedsomething.com/20070206/more-vista-exploits/
You are still not making the distinction between idiots and savvy people using Windows.

It irks me that as a Windows user I'm pigeonholed with people who use a tool and not learning how to use it before firing up Internet Explorer.

Windows is not the problem here - people are.

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Originally posted by CCNoob
Here are vista exploits.
http://www.istartedsomething.com/20070206/more-vista-exploits/
LOL!

You might actually want to read that article before assuming it supports your argument!

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Originally posted by CCNoob
Windows PCs are so insecure that you cannot know how people's email login details were stolen and posted on the web. A fully patched windows pc is still susceptible to 0 day exploits and if you reinstall your pc and surf the net you will get automatically infected. Look at all those fake antivirus sales that they target at windows users, they sold more fake a ...[text shortened]... us.

Here are vista exploits.
http://www.istartedsomething.com/20070206/more-vista-exploits/
so break into my machine. any of them. I dare you.


no idea how to even find it? well ain't that inconvenient.

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Originally posted by Daemon Sin
LOL!

You might actually want to read that article before assuming it supports your argument!
God, that's great. I didn't even bother to follow his link, but that is just wonderful...

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Originally posted by CCNoob
Windows PCs are so insecure that you cannot know how people's email login details were stolen and posted on the web. A fully patched windows pc is still susceptible to 0 day exploits and if you reinstall your pc and surf the net you will get automatically infected. Look at all those fake antivirus sales that they target at windows users, they sold more fake a ...[text shortened]... us.

Here are vista exploits.
http://www.istartedsomething.com/20070206/more-vista-exploits/
That is too funny.

Okay even though you're spreading nonsense and fearmongering here I'm going to try and teach you a thing or two because you're such a n00b and for some reason I like helping n00bs because we were all once one of you. (except me)

Administrator account! ZOMG! The best viruses and hackers don't care whether you're logged in as an admin or limited user or whatever. They'll find the admin account, whether you like it or not, and they use it to do as they please. I know this from years of fixing other people's (n00bs) computers, and because I like to stay informed and up to date. A way to get around this is to rename your administrator account. As you're so handy with google searching, I'll let you figure out how to do it for yourself. (Note that this won't change the SID on your Admin account, so they'll still be able to find it if they're pro at hacking.)

Epic virus! ZOMG! You don't have to reformat your PC when you have a big bad monster lurking under the bed. You just need to remove it. 99% of the time it helps to have a second computer when your PC has become so infected to the point where you can't even use the internet anymore. I prefer to keep all my virus-murdering applications in a safe place, so that I don't have to download anything when I need to use them (i.e. when fixing someone else's computer). When you hit a catastrophic failure as a result of a virus, run this program: [www.malwarebytes.org] It works better (and faster) than any antivirus app that I've found, and it's free. It killed about 30 hardcore virii on a laptop that I fixed last month, while apps like AVG kept stalling the PC during the scan. The laptop is now completely fine again, but it won't be long before more viruses appear as a result of the owner's method of using the thing.

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Windows geeks challenge - Show me any document by microsoft engineers, MSDN or Technet advising people to run their computers as admin. That should be pretty simple huh?

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Originally posted by CCNoob
Windows geeks challenge - [b]Show me any document by microsoft engineers, MSDN or Technet advising people to run their computers as admin. That should be pretty simple huh?[/b]
Stupid request. Microsoft is not going to publicly advise people to run as Admin because 97% of users (see your posts) don't know what they're doing. I guess that in your case you should restrict yourself to using a guest account, while wearing a helmet.

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Originally posted by hopscotch
I know this from years of fixing other people's (n00bs) computers, and because I like to stay informed and up to date. ////[www.malwarebytes.org] It works better (and faster) than any antivirus app that I've found, and it's free.
LOL////What do you think of NOD?

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Originally posted by CCNoob
Windows geeks challenge - [b]Show me any document by microsoft engineers, MSDN or Technet advising people to run their computers as admin. That should be pretty simple huh?[/b]
As mentioned earlier, they wouldn't advise people to run their computers as admin, because the vast majority of casual users can potentially ruin their PCs if they did. This is the same as a free climber wouldn't advise a less experienced climber to climb without safety equipment.

I have also been programming for almost 30 years, and professionally as a software developer for 14 years in various operating systems including Linux, Unix, MS-DOS, Windows 3.1/95/98/NT/2000/XP/Vista and also never had any problems with viruses or trojans, and I always use an admin account.

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Originally posted by Bosse de Nage
LOL////What do you think of NOD?
NOD is the best at keeping stuff out. I ran it for years on a network of about 20 computers, never had any serious incidents. It totally beats the stuffing out of Symantec, Kaspersky, AVG, McAfee, Trend Micro(lol), etc when it comes to system load and being on the ball ALL THE TIME. It catches absolutely anything if you install it correctly.

Malwarebytes (mentioned above) is really only used in cases of emergency, and nothing beats that, though I never ran into any emergencies with NOD.

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Originally posted by CCNoob
Windows geeks challenge - [b]Show me any document by microsoft engineers, MSDN or Technet advising people to run their computers as admin. That should be pretty simple huh?[/b]
I'd like to see a software engineer that doesn't run his workstation as admin.



btw, did you notice I posted a solution to your installation problem? you don't need to give chrome admin. unless you want to install it to multiple accounts, which kinda makes all kinds of sense when you think for a second.

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Originally posted by hopscotch
NOD is the best at keeping stuff out.
Sehr gut.