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  1. Unknown Territories
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    10 Jun '16 18:581 edit
    Some have opined how the Coriolis EffectReveal Hidden Content
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    is proof of a spinning earth.
    To this point, it has been claimed how snipers must consider the affect this phenomenon has on their long-range shots in order to hit their intended target(s).
    In principal, the theory is that once a bullet leaves the muzzle of a weapon, it ceases to be part of the rotation of the earth.
    In order to land on (ha! or in) the intended target, the person firing must consider their position on the globe and how much the rotation of the earth will affect the trajectory of their bullet.
    The earth, it is claimed, is rotating away from the bullet.
    Does anybody really believe this claptrap?
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    10 Jun '16 19:54
    Originally posted by FreakyKBH
    Some have opined how the Coriolis Effect[hidden] http://www.dictionary.com/browse/coriolis-effect[/hidden] is proof of a spinning earth.
    To this point, it has been claimed how snipers must consider the affect this phenomenon has on their long-range shots in order to hit their intended target(s).
    In principal, the theory is that once a bullet leaves the m ...[text shortened]... th, it is claimed, is rotating away from the bullet.
    Does anybody really believe this claptrap?
    The real question is why YOU think otherwise. I gather you have had zero in the way of physics in your non-education. Did you not look at the video where the bullets all were south of the target in one direction and north of the target when they turn around 180 degrees? Going from say, east to west?

    It also has to be taken into account shooting north or south.

    AND aircraft DO have to take that effect into account.
    AND it also causes hurricanes to go in one direction in the northern hemisphere and the other direction in the southern hemisphere. Try to prove THAT is fake.

    Try to rationalize THAT in a non-spinning flat Earth.
  3. Unknown Territories
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    10 Jun '16 19:59
    Originally posted by sonhouse
    The real question is why YOU think otherwise. I gather you have had zero in the way of physics in your non-education. Did you not look at the video where the bullets all were south of the target in one direction and north of the target when they turn around 180 degrees? Going from say, east to west?

    It also has to be taken into account shooting north or ...[text shortened]... emisphere. Try to prove THAT is fake.

    Try to rationalize THAT in a non-spinning flat Earth.
    Let's do the math, little one.
    If a plane takes off from, say, Boston, headed for, say, Seattle, as soon as it leaves the surface of the earth, is it now (like that majik bullet) free of the rotation of the earth?
    Because the earth is spinning toward the east at a rate of 1000 miles an hour, does it take the plane no time at all to reach its destination?
    Or, conversely, if that same plane takes off from Seattle headed back to Boston, does it take off and land within minutes?
    You know: with the earth rotating beneath it so quickly?
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    10 Jun '16 20:051 edit
    Originally posted by FreakyKBH
    Let's do the math, little one.
    If a plane takes off from, say, Boston, headed for, say, Seattle, as soon as it leaves the surface of the earth, is it now (like that majik bullet) free of the rotation of the earth?
    Because the earth is spinning toward the east at a rate of 1000 miles an hour, does it take the plane no time at all to reach its destination? ...[text shortened]... s it take off and land within minutes?
    You know: with the earth rotating beneath it so quickly?
    And again, we are going over stuff already covered but in your paranoid mind NOTHING is correct, 500 years of science is all BS to you. Why don't we have 1000 mile per hour winds?

    Could it be, oh, I don't know, that the air is moving mostly at the same rate Earth spins?

    Plus, the fact the plane is taking off with the same kinetic energy it would have in a spinning Earth.
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    10 Jun '16 21:25
    Originally posted by FreakyKBH
    Some have opined how the Coriolis Effect[hidden] http://www.dictionary.com/browse/coriolis-effect[/hidden] is proof of a spinning earth.
    To this point, it has been claimed how snipers must consider the affect this phenomenon has on their long-range shots in order to hit their intended target(s).
    In principal, the theory is that once a bullet leaves the m ...[text shortened]... th, it is claimed, is rotating away from the bullet.
    Does anybody really believe this claptrap?
    The bullet is still within the grasp of gravity. It is gravity and air that has the most dramatic effect on a bullet once it leaves the muzzle of a firearm. I think the Coriolis Effect is negligible considering the small distance a bullet will travel in relation to the size of the earth.
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    10 Jun '16 21:33
    Originally posted by sonhouse
    And again, we are going over stuff already covered but in your paranoid mind NOTHING is correct, 500 years of science is all BS to you. Why don't we have 1000 mile per hour winds?

    Could it be, oh, I don't know, that the air is moving mostly at the same rate Earth spins?

    Plus, the fact the plane is taking off with the same kinetic energy it would have in a spinning Earth.
    "Could it be, oh, I don't know, that the air is moving mostly at the same rate Earth spins?"

    And so is everything else including a bullet. I think there are too many variables to conclude that the Coriolis Effect is significant enough to prove anything about the movement of objects within the gravity field of the earth much less that it is a sphere of sorts.
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    10 Jun '16 22:28
    Originally posted by FreakyKBH
    it has been claimed how snipers must consider the affect this phenomenon has on their long-range shots in order to hit their intended target(s).
    The best sniper on hand is the one who puts one in your skull.
  8. Unknown Territories
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    10 Jun '16 22:43
    Originally posted by sonhouse
    And again, we are going over stuff already covered but in your paranoid mind NOTHING is correct, 500 years of science is all BS to you. Why don't we have 1000 mile per hour winds?

    Could it be, oh, I don't know, that the air is moving mostly at the same rate Earth spins?

    Plus, the fact the plane is taking off with the same kinetic energy it would have in a spinning Earth.
    Oh.
    So the bullet is able to escape the earth's rotation but the plane is not?
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    10 Jun '16 23:12
    Originally posted by Kegge
    The best sniper on hand is the one who puts one in your skull.
    I know people who say things like that. They don't know what they're talking about either.
  10. Dumnonia
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    11 Jun '16 06:381 edit
    Originally posted by FreakyKBH
    Let's do the math, little one.
    If a plane takes off from, say, Boston, headed for, say, Seattle, as soon as it leaves the surface of the earth, is it now (like that majik bullet) free of the rotation of the earth?
    Because the earth is spinning toward the east at a rate of 1000 miles an hour, does it take the plane no time at all to reach its destination? ...[text shortened]... s it take off and land within minutes?
    You know: with the earth rotating beneath it so quickly?
    The atmosphere moves with the spinning of the globe and the aeroplane flys ON the atmosphere - that's how it stays in the air - it's called "lift" and the plane moves with the air around it to a large extent.
    Bullets are much much less atmosphere dependent moving in a real straight line independent of the air around them.

    It's not complicated.
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    11 Jun '16 07:04
    Originally posted by josephw
    The bullet is still within the grasp of gravity. It is gravity and air that has the most dramatic effect on a bullet once it leaves the muzzle of a firearm. I think the Coriolis Effect is negligible considering the small distance a bullet will travel in relation to the size of the earth.
    It's the distance the surface of the earth moves in relation to the size of the bullet's target during the bullet's flight that matters. I.e. If the earth moves only foot to the relative left and the target is only one foot across then the bullet will likely miss.
  12. Unknown Territories
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    11 Jun '16 10:29
    Originally posted by divegeester
    It's the distance the surface of the earth moves in relation to the size of the bullet's target during the bullet's flight that matters. I.e. If the earth moves only foot to the relative left and the target is only one foot across then the bullet will likely miss.
    At 1007 mph, the earth's rotation is equivalent to 1,470' per second.
    A bullet's speed is 2,500' per second.
    An airplane's speed is 750' per second... unless, of course, you're in an X-15, when you're speed is 6,562' per second.
    So you're saying a bullet needs to factor for the CE, but a plane at 750' per second or even 6,562' per second does not?
    And that's because of... lift?
    You might want to sharpen your pencil and try again.
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    11 Jun '16 11:48
    Coriolis effect demonstrated on a small scale inside a room.

    YouTube
  14. Subscribersonhouse
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    11 Jun '16 12:33
    Originally posted by FishHead111
    Coriolis effect demonstrated on a small scale inside a room.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dt_XJp77-mk
    Have no fear, the freak will ignore this video and anything else that goes against his flatass fantasy.
  15. Dumnonia
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    11 Jun '16 14:00
    Originally posted by FreakyKBH
    At 1007 mph, the earth's rotation is equivalent to 1,470' [b]per second.
    A bullet's speed is 2,500' per second.
    An airplane's speed is 750' per second... unless, of course, you're in an X-15, when you're speed is 6,562' per second.
    So you're saying a bullet needs to factor for the CE, but a plane at 750' per second or even 6,562' per second does not?
    And that's because of... lift?
    You might want to sharpen your pencil and try again.[/b]
    Stop being an idiot on the Internet and read around the subject you lazy arse.
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