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  1. Wat?
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    30 Jan '13 14:491 edit
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=tZ46Ot4_lLo&feature=fvwp

    I do, very.

    -m.
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    30 Jan '13 15:15
    Originally posted by mikelom
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=tZ46Ot4_lLo&feature=fvwp

    I do, very.

    -m.
    No not at all.:'(
  3. Dublin Ireland
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    30 Jan '13 15:16
    Originally posted by mikelom
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=tZ46Ot4_lLo&feature=fvwp

    I do, very.

    -m.
    I am a cynic at heart and tend not to take anything at face value.
    You must remember that this is a tv show and what matters are ratings.
    Certain people and situations can be stage managed in order to give a
    desired effect and so increase viewers and ratings and that in turn
    attracts commercial entities who will want to offer sponsorship deals
    and have advertising slots on the show. Companies pay a lot of money
    for huge lucrative contracts such as this and so the producers will always
    look for ways to increase the viewing audience. More interest means
    more revenue.

    I have been thought to examine every facet and detail of a situation
    before making a cold calculated conclusion. Facts are what matter,
    not emotions. Facts allow you to arrive at the truth and facts cannot
    be ruled out or overturned. Once you have the facts, then you have
    the WHOLE story. Emotions, while useful to a certain extent
    can blind you to what is really going on.
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    30 Jan '13 15:50
    Originally posted by johnnylongwoody
    I am a cynic at heart and tend not to take anything at face value.
    You must remember that this is a tv show and what matters are ratings.
    Certain people and situations can be stage managed in order to give a
    desired effect and so increase viewers and ratings and that in turn
    attracts commercial entities who will want to offer sponsorship deals
    ...[text shortened]... E story. Emotions, while useful to a certain extent
    can blind you to what is really going on.
    How does one know if the facts are in fact factual...objectivity?
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    30 Jan '13 16:00
    Originally posted by johnnylongwoody
    I am a cynic at heart and tend not to take anything at face value.
    You must remember that this is a tv show and what matters are ratings.
    Certain people and situations can be stage managed in order to give a
    desired effect and so increase viewers and ratings and that in turn
    attracts commercial entities who will want to offer sponsorship deals
    ...[text shortened]... E story. Emotions, while useful to a certain extent
    can blind you to what is really going on.
    Are you sure you are Irish, No wonder all the Leprachauns died, broken hearts, probably.
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    30 Jan '13 16:10
    Originally posted by kevcvs57
    Are you sure you are Irish, No wonder all the Leprachauns died, broken hearts, probably.
    I think you're right. I think he analyzed the facts concerning the the "real" end of the rainbow and stole the pot...of gold I mean.
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    30 Jan '13 16:45
    Originally posted by Great Big Stees
    I think you're right. I think he analyzed the facts concerning the the "real" end of the rainbow and stole the pot...of gold I mean.
    That would explain the big cheesy grin.
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    30 Jan '13 18:02
    Originally posted by kevcvs57
    That would explain the big cheesy grin.
    Yes and those "playful/conniving" eyebrows.😠
  9. Dublin Ireland
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    30 Jan '13 18:201 edit
    Originally posted by Great Big Stees
    How does one know if the facts are in fact factual...objectivity?
    Facts are factual and therefore real and true and cannot be denied or overturned.


    If they were not then they would not be called facts.


    The likes of Simon Cowell and others like him would only be interested in facts
    not emotions.

    Facts like how many people watched the show?
    How much money can I make if such a company sponsors the show?
    How many sales units will I get from his album?
    How many more people will watch the show if I ask Lady Ga Ga to appear
    as a guest judge?

    These are all deliberate contrived actions used to reach a higher goal.

    Cold clinical actions designed to pull at your emotions.
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    30 Jan '13 18:26
    Originally posted by johnnylongwoody
    Facts are factual and therefore real and true and cannot be denied or overturned.


    If they were not then they would not be called facts.
    So when people thought that the earth was the center of their universe (a fact to them). When people thought that the world was flat (a fact to them). ??? Can facts really not be overturned? It seems to me that facts are only facts till someone/something proves them otherwise.
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    30 Jan '13 18:34
    Originally posted by Great Big Stees
    So when people thought that the earth was the center of their universe (a fact to them). When people thought that the world was flat (a fact to them). ??? Can facts really not be overturned? It seems to me that facts are only facts till someone/something proves them otherwise.
    Facts are facts. Just because people thought the earth was flat did
    not make it a fact. Superstition and fear ruled then. It was only after the 1300's that man began to widely travel the globe and learn all kinds of knowledge which
    put an end to superstition and fear.

    Knowledge is power. Discovering facts can give you that power.
    Once you discover the facts then you have arrived at the solution.

    That is why in a court of law facts are what is important.
  12. Standard memberhakima
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    30 Jan '13 19:40
    As an educator, I find the words of the judge most inspiring:

    "Let me hear you sing."

    I hope I always remember to say that to my students regardless of their circumstances.

    Peace.
  13. Standard membersasquatch672
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    31 Jan '13 06:38
    Originally posted by johnnylongwoody
    I am a cynic at heart and tend not to take anything at face value.
    You must remember that this is a tv show and what matters are ratings.
    Certain people and situations can be stage managed in order to give a
    desired effect and so increase viewers and ratings and that in turn
    attracts commercial entities who will want to offer sponsorship deals
    ...[text shortened]... E story. Emotions, while useful to a certain extent
    can blind you to what is really going on.
    Jesus Johnny. Kick somebody in the balls on your way to morning coffee, why don't you? Take a kid's sucker!

    Much better than average voice. Not world class yet. Very good, needs training. He needs to sing from the back of his throat more.
  14. Standard memberGrampy Bobby
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    10 Feb '13 16:13
    Originally posted by mikelom
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=tZ46Ot4_lLo&feature=fvwp

    I do, very.

    -m.
    Much younger children from Ukraine:

    YouTube

    Imagine the long hours of practice.

    Well worth it... poise for life!
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    10 Feb '13 18:552 edits
    Originally posted by Great Big Stees
    So when people thought that the earth was the center of their universe (a fact to them). When people thought that the world was flat (a fact to them). ??? Can facts really not be overturned? It seems to me that facts are only facts till someone/something proves them otherwise.
    People often use "fact" as they use "truth."

    Wittgenstein said a fact is that which is the case. If a cat chases a ball, the cat chasing the ball is the fact.

    The statement "The cat is chasing the ball" is a truth, not a fact. Facts are not statements. A truth is a statement that corresponds in a certain way to; or "fits" a fact.

    Wittgenstein thereby tells us how he is going to use these words. This does not mean we have to, but it makes sense to me.
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