Originally posted by Great Big Stees So when people thought that the earth was the center of their universe (a fact to them). When people thought that the world was flat (a fact to them). ??? Can facts really not be overturned? It seems to me that facts are only facts till someone/something proves them otherwise.
People often use "fact" as they use "truth."
Wittgenstein said a fact is that which is the case. If a cat chases a ball, the cat chasing the ball is the fact.
The statement "The cat is chasing the ball" is a truth, not a fact. Facts are not statements. A truth is a statement that corresponds in a certain way to; or "fits" a fact.
Wittgenstein thereby tells us how he is going to use these words. This does not mean we have to, but it makes sense to me.
Originally posted by johnnylongwoody Facts are factual and therefore real and true and cannot be denied or overturned.
If they were not then they would not be called facts.
Is it a fact that you are a 1078 rated chess player?
Originally posted by JS357 People often use "fact" as they use "truth."
Wittgenstein said a fact is that which is the case. If a cat chases a ball, the cat chasing the ball is the fact.
The statement "The cat is chasing the ball" is a truth, not a fact. Facts are not statements. A truth is a statement that corresponds in a certain way to; or "fits" a fact.
Wittgenstein ...[text shortened]... he is going to use these words. This does not mean we have to, but it makes sense to me.
How could Wittgenstein possibly know that the cat was chasing the ball, the cat might have just been moving on the same trajectory.🙂
Do you find this moving?
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