Originally posted by PalynkaNo, I wouldn't. I'm a bit confused as to my position on this.
When homophobic insults disappear.
If the insult had been racist, would you maintain the same view that it's an over-reaction?
I definitely would like to see the book thrown at people who are racist on the field. The difference being that calling somebody a derogatory term for black people when the recipient is black, is that the offender knows what he is saying is true, ie: that person is indeed black.
Somebody calling somebody else an effing poof for over reacting to an inocuous challenge is slagging the person for their over reaction and low pain threshold, and is pretty much independant of their sexuality. He could easily have called him a "cry-baby" or a "weakling", or something like that, but we're talking about adult footballers on the pitch with adrenaline flowing.
I don't know.
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I guess my point is this...
is it anti women to call somebody a "cheating c nt" after he's taken a dive?
is it anti cats to call somebody a "pussy"?
is it anti tall people to call somebody a "long wire of misery" (actual slag heard in a game of GAA that I was playing in)?
In an ideal world, there probably wouldn't be name calling on the pitch, but trying to rile your opponent is part and parcel of the game in the real world.
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Originally posted by Ragnoraksticks and stones....
I guess my point is this...
is it anti women to call somebody a "cheating c nt" after he's taken a dive?
is it anti cats to call somebody a "pussy"?
is it anti tall people to call somebody a "long wire of misery" (actual slag heard in a game of GAA that I was playing in)?
In an ideal world, there probably wouldn't be name calling on the pitch, but trying to rile your opponent is part and parcel of the game in the real world.
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Originally posted by RagnorakI think you have a point here.
No, I wouldn't. I'm a bit confused as to my position on this.
I definitely would like to see the book thrown at people who are racist on the field. The difference being that calling somebody a derogatory term for black people when the recipient is black, is that the offender knows what he is saying is true, ie: that person is indeed black.
Somebody ...[text shortened]... king about adult footballers on the pitch with adrenaline flowing.
I don't know.
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I'm opposed to people being being abused about their sexuality, but I think the word 'poof' has gone a bit beyond this.
It can be used to mean 'cissy', or effiminate, or just weak, rather than gay.
Racist abuse is generally black and white (so to speak), but homophobic terms can be a bit less clear cut.
But, if gay rights groups say it is offensive (and not just Tatchell), then that has to be enough.
Originally posted by RedmikeCome on, no one can choose whether they are born black or white or effin rainbow striped. But people chose their sexuality, and if a man choses to be with another man I'm going to make fun of him, alot. Whats he going to do, slap me? And if a woman choses to be with another woman...well then I want to watch.
I think you have a point here.
I'm opposed to people being being abused about their sexuality, but I think the word 'poof' has gone a bit beyond this.
It can be used to mean 'cissy', or effiminate, or just weak, rather than gay.
Racist abuse is generally black and white (so to speak), but homophobic terms can be a bit less clear cut.
But, if gay rights groups say it is offensive (and not just Tatchell), then that has to be enough.
Originally posted by RagnorakYou have a point, the line is definitely not clear.
No, I wouldn't. I'm a bit confused as to my position on this.
I definitely would like to see the book thrown at people who are racist on the field. The difference being that calling somebody a derogatory term for black people when the recipient is black, is that the offender knows what he is saying is true, ie: that person is indeed black.
Somebody ...[text shortened]... king about adult footballers on the pitch with adrenaline flowing.
I don't know.
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To throw another idea into the fire, the truth is that players get cards if they shout similar insults to the ref. Why are insults tolerated between players?
If I was gay, I definitely wouldn't like hearing such insults, even if not used at me. I think that if they find it derogatory, then it's because it is.