here is an update on the steer who escaped from the Al Badr Slaughter House (see steer to freedom thread http://www.redhotpawn.com/board/showthread.php?id=7792)
the steer, now named jefferson, is free and is living at the sasha sanctuary, in Manchester, MI (http://www.sashafarm.org/)
i talked, last week, to dorothy davies who runs the sasha sanctuary. she gave me some very interesting behind the scenes information. here are some of those mostly from my discussion with her:
1. jefferson was in line to be killed in a halal fashion (it is an islamic procedure where the animals can only be killed one by one) so he was waiting in line when he noticed that a door leading outside the slaughtering area had been left open. he walked out into the parking lot and escaped. ironically, he walked right up to a burger king store and then headed into the streets and was captured on jefferson street, which is how he got his name.
2. jefferson was to face his doom again, but the media and many others on the continent called for his release. the director of the local zoo offered to help with vet services, but was most dismayed when he learned that jefferson was to go back to slaughter. as Candace Rhodes, a cosmetology teacher at Detroit's Crockett Career and Technical Center said, Any cow who goes to all that trouble to say he's not going out like that deserves to be saved.
3. conditions inside a slaughterhouse are so bad from a disease perspective (tb for instance) that by law any animal that enters cannot leave alive. the government made an exception for jefferson who is quarantined for 2 months. dorothy saw cows vomiting and with skin scabs in that slaughterhouse. what you have to wonder, of course, is if the animals are too sick to ever be released, how come it's ok to eat them? does the disease somehow die with the animal?
4. the slaughterhouse kept haggling with her for an amount. at one time, they said someone had offered $10,000 to just kill the steer - right, that makes a lot of sense doesn't it? anyway, the agreed amount came down to $2000 most of which supposedly went to vet bills and to pay for the crane that was needed to move him after tranquilization. strangely enough, this had to be a cash transaction - no cheques, no money orders, not even mastercard! could it be that this place doesn't want the transaction to appear in their books? dorothy told me that there are several of these 'crooked' operations in her state - there are just not enough inspectors around to catch up with them.
5. one of the excuses the slaughterhouse was making, for not releasing jefferson was that he was a vicious animal. it is true he contemplated charging when he was surrounded and about to be tranquilized. however, in his new home, he is docile, friendly and even eats out of your hand.
6. many people who were calling or contributing on behalf of jefferson were dramatically moved. a few even became vegetarian. dorothy related that a local firefighter, who had been very supportive during all this, told her that when they were having cheeseburgers for lunch he said, " i just couldn't eat them - how do you figure that?"
there is more to jefferson's story than that of a steer who just 'got away'. it is important to realize that most of the people who supported him were not even animal rights activists. they were people who saw him as a being who refused to give in to the odds and to not accept the fate others have determined for him.
jefferson's story provides hope for tireless and brave people like dorothy who witness and fight against horrors everyday on behalf of those who can't. jefferson's story furnishes inspiration for all of us to 'never say die' - for in suffering, courage and the will to live, we are kindred with all beings.
in friendship,
prad
Originally posted by pradtfHi!
here is an update on the steer who escaped from the Al Badr Slaughter House (see steer to freedom thread http://www.redhotpawn.com/board/showthread.php?id=7792)
the steer, now named jefferson, is free and is living at the sasha sanctuary, in Manchester, MI (http://www.sashafarm.org/)
i talked, last week, to dorothy davies who runs the sasha sanctuary. s ...[text shortened]... suffering, courage and the will to live, we are kindred with all beings.
in friendship,
prad
Prad thanks for the update.
Dorothy and others imho are true heros.
It's baffling how religions still practise these bizarre rituals.
I am sure that the people who work at these slaughterhouses must have many sleepness nights unless they drink themselves to sleep.
Big G.
Originally posted by kirksey957it would be understandable, kirksey 😀
"He walked right over to a Burger King..." That is hilarious. I was expecting that he would next go to the cemetary where Dave Thomas was buried and dump a load. 😀
dave thomas (founder of wendy's fast food chain) apparently did some interesting things - such as advocate for better adoptions (he was an adopted child himself) and helped create the 33 cent adoption postage stamp through his foundation. he also advocated for family values and christian faith. he was a protege of colonel saunders and even helped him 'save' 4 failing kfc outlets in the 60's.
he had quadruple heart bypass surgery in 1996 and apparently when informed that his problems may be directly attributable to what he was eating (and selling), he said something like he will stick to it as long as people wanted the stuff and as long as he could stay alive. he died from liver cancer 6 years later at the age of 69.
i had a link (from dorothy) with a picture of jefferson in his new home at sasha farm, but i can't find it now. they may not have linked that page to the rest of the animals - some of whose stories are quite interesting btw.
in friendship,
prad
Originally posted by pradtfAm i the only one? This silly "in freidship" shi* is silly. You are only out to promote another silly religion. So? Hate all religions.
it would be understandable, kirksey 😀
dave thomas (founder of wendy's fast food chain) apparently did some interesting things - such as advocate for better adoptions (he was an adopted child himself) and helped create the 33 cent adoption postage stamp through his foundation. he also advocated for family values and christian faith. he was a protege of co ...[text shortened]... e rest of the animals - some of whose stories are quite interesting btw.
in friendship,
prad
Not in freindship.... In total opposition to silly people who don't know why the human organism digests meat in 20 minutes and plant matter in two hours... (Raw meat in 18 actually... but we won't go there)
Mike
Originally posted by StarValleyWyWhat aggression Mike.
Am i the only one? This silly "in freidship" shi* is silly. You are only out to promote another silly religion. So? Hate all religions.
Not in freindship.... In total opposition to silly people who don't know why the human organism digests meat in 20 minutes and plant matter in two hours... (Raw meat in 18 actually... but we won't go there)
Mike
I'm well aware the human body is capable of digesting meat, as well as plant life. A human body can also digest other humans quite as easily, yet I'd hardly call that a convincing argument for cannibalism. It's also obvious humans can live healthily without meat in their diet.
The real question is one of morals, and that's something for each person to decide on their own.
With love,
Dylan
Originally posted by dylI agree. The best thing that can happen to a lot of people would be digestion. As for living without eating meat... What an elitist bunch of bullsh*t...
What aggression Mike.
I'm well aware the human body is capable of digesting meat, as well as plant life. A human body can also digest other humans quite as easily, yet I'd hardly call that a convincing argument for cannibalism. It's also obvious humans can live healthily without meat in their diet.
The real question is one of morals, and that's something for each person to decide on their own.
With love,
Dylan
Do you really think you can fool anyone into thinking you are a kind and caring person by not eating meat? Wow! The only thing it tells me is that you can't really differentiate between a dog and a fellow human, and that you don't understand your role as the dominant omnivore (conscious I hope) on this miserable mud ball. Liberal to a fault.
Morals my ass. You wouldn't know morals if you tripped over them and drowned in dead baby parts. Morals involve defending the rights of innocent HUMAN beings. Done any of that lately? Supported killing the killers in Iraq lately? Don't preach until you learn the difference between human life and animal life. The difference between conscious beings and unconscious beings. There is a difference in scale and in scope and in aspect. Scale is awareness of suffering. Scope as in the 'anticipation' of justice. Aspect is in scale of conscious dread of death.
To equate "morals" with eating other creatures is elitist. What makes you so superior to them (and me) that you can't honor their way? They eat each other with great gusto. So do I. I consider it an honor to be a "beast", just like them and the wolves you worship.
Originally posted by StarValleyWyok mike. let me know just what you are objecting to. is it
Am i the only one? This silly "in freidship" shi* is silly. You are only out to promote another silly religion. So? Hate all religions.
Not in freindship.... In total opposition to silly people who don't know why the human organ ...[text shortened]... urs... (Raw meat in 18 actually... but we won't go there)
Mike
1. the 'in friendship' signature
2. you think vegetarianism is a religion
3. you think vegetarians are silly
4. you have some problem with the human digestive process
5. all of the above
as for your comments in your post to dyl, that's worth exploring a bit later, but first i'd like to know from you which of the 5 points you are objecting to.
in friendship,
prad
Originally posted by StarValleyWySince when did morals only include defending the rights of humans?
I agree. The best thing that can happen to a lot of people would be digestion. As for living without eating meat... What an elitist bunch of bullsh*t...
Do you really think you can fool anyone into thinking you are a kind and caring ...[text shortened]... or to be a "beast", just like them and the wolves you worship.
Moral: Arising from conscience or the sense of right and wrong.
That's the meaning I intended. To me it seems wrong to eat another living thing when I can avoid it. I believe the gulf between humans and other animals is not nearly as wide as we seem to think. But of course, that is only what I believe. My dad eats meat. My mates eat meat. Presumably their dads and their dad’s friends eat meat too. That doesn't bother me at all, but even if it did, I would never dream of treating them like you have me. If what I put in my mouth gets your blood pressure this high, your poor heart must be doing the work of 20.
StarValleyWy, I won’t bother with the rest of your post as it is filled with mad ravings about drowning in dead baby parts along with suggestions that animals wish to be eaten and that I'm dishonouring them by not visiting the local butcher. You're an absolute bloody loony; worse, you’re an abusive one. I will endeavour from this point onwards to ignore your existence, and I strongly advise others to do the same.
Hugs and Kisses,
Dylan