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How can you tell if engines are being used?

How can you tell if engines are being used?

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Originally posted by Phlabibit
When you feel that way check it for kicks.

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after the game is over, of course...

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Originally posted by tmetzler
after the game is over, of course...
YES! Never plug a game in progress into an engine to check for 'cheating' because now YOU will be 'cheating'.

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Originally posted by Phlabibit
YES! Never plug a game in progress into an engine to check for 'cheating' because now YOU will be 'cheating'.

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Hey Phalb...nice avatar...it looks like this "suspicious" hamster home.

http://138.218.2.32/humanresources/hrb/moebid/items_details.cfm?call_number=72

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So does fritz or shredder have an analysis function that would show how many moves it would have preferred? I guess you just input the complete game and let fritz or whatever analyze the game and see how many moves it agrees with.

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Originally posted by sonhouse
So does fritz or shredder have an analysis function that would show how many moves it would have preferred? I guess you just input the complete game and let fritz or whatever analyze the game and see how many moves it agrees with.
Fritz you turn "Engine On" and pick one from the list. You can get extras!

You must find where "book / Data" ends. You might be wise to use Chess Lab to be sure you are out of data... Sometimes Chesslab.com has more info than your engine might.

You should be able to click on any move that is out of book, and if your engine is ON it will show you a line. Hit the Plus button over the line... and you can add an extra 3 or so lines... that way you know choice one, two, and three.

I don't have shredder, so not sure how that one works. If your still stuck, I'll need to re-install my fritz to help you. My computer pooped last month and I have yet to put it back.

Many people use Chess Master wrong. They run the game and CM says it agrees 100 or 90 percent with all moves. That just means it doesn't mind the moves, but that is NOT the moves CM would have done. Don't fall for that crap.

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Originally posted by uzless
Hey Phalb...nice avatar...it looks like this "suspicious" hamster home.

http://138.218.2.32/humanresources/hrb/moebid/items_details.cfm?call_number=72
This link won't let me connect...

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Originally posted by Phlabibit
Fritz you turn "Engine On" and pick one from the list. You can get extras!

You must find where "book / Data" ends. You might be wise to use Chess Lab to be sure you are out of data... Sometimes Chesslab.com has more info than your engine might.

You should be able to click on any move that is out of book, and if your engine is ON it will show you a ...[text shortened]... he moves, but that is NOT the moves CM would have done. Don't fall for that crap.

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I've tried using ChessMaster to analyze my own games and I still haven't figured it out. Any help would be appreciated.

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Originally posted by Gatecrasher
1) A cheat might cut and paste a FEN position or PGN game into an engine interface like Chessbase at each move. That might take 10-15 seconds seconds per move. Alternatively, a cheat might store their games in a database (like Chessbase) and load/update it on each move. That might be somewhat quicker. If a cheat is playing a blitz or a single game in a s ...[text shortened]... ine, just send feedback or send me (or tmetzler) a PM stating the reasons for your suspicion.
There always the possibility also that the person logs on, sees what move has been played, and then goes off, looks at the position over a board (I prefer this to a computer screen) and then logs back on ready to play his moves. As I only play a few games at a time, and rarely have time to analyse whilst on the site, this is what I do most of the time.