Originally posted by darvlayI always bring this up, but BW is inexperienced. He lives at home with his parents and his emotional suffering is still childish. When you've paid your way, been hurt a few times in life, suffered disappointments, etc, then you can talk about happiness and what it means to you. It's not the same for everyone.
Are you now implying that just because I am a happy person that I don't know what sadness is?
Stop diggin' the hole, junior.
I think he probably finds messed up girls attractive because there is less threat. I might be wrong altogether here.
Not that this is a serious discussion, but the concept of not needing 'external stimuli' to be happy is one of the most important concepts of being human. Are we only happy when we eat at a great Restaurant, buy something, go on vacation? Or does one's happiness soley depend on your own inner peace and perspective of yourself and life in general.
Are the well documented problems of Hollywood and rock stars not a pretty good proof that money, possesions, vacations and fame not only do not lead to happiness, but actually lead you away from one's own true meaning, peace, and purpose in life. If one were to count all the people in the world with little money and possesions who are truely happy and peaceful, the list would be pretty long. The theory that true happiness and satisfaction comes from what we CONTRIBUTE to the human race (give rather than receive) does have many supporters. On your death bed, when you look back at your life, will you count your possesions, money etc, or will you look at how how you made someone's life better and contributed something to humanity. Too serious, I'm sure, and will be met by many snide remarks, but I thought I would throw this crazy concept out there.
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Originally posted by darvlayNot quite, that you know less about what it means a little then?
Are you now implying that just because I am a happy person that I don't know what sadness is?
Stop diggin' the hole, junior.
Oh, please note that I guess you have take ages into consideration, you're older than me, so probably know more about what sadness means purely because you've had more experiences.
I'm thinking people around my age when I say these things.
Originally posted by Bad wolfI am assuming you are not talking about clinical depression here, really? You mean people who are bummed out and can't solve their problems? I think when a person is happy they are very good at expressing that happiness.
No one seems to put much meaning on anything these days, they just seem to be happy for no reason, I don't get it. At least when a depressed person is happy they mean it, and I like that, it's honest.
Same with things that don't make them happy, they're honest with their response.
Does that make any sense?
Originally posted by Bad wolfI dont think it was a poor choice of words, and I also agree with the point that without knowing sadness, happiness may not be fully appreciated.
It was a poor choice of words. 😞
Seeing a parent looking into a childs eyes as the child speaks, really listening and thereby communicating that what the child thinks and feels is important to them, may seem a trivial thing, but when I see that, it makes me happy. But I know good parenting being the solution to crime and drug problems is inflamatory so I dont expect agreement. Afterall, lets not take responsibility for how we treat others, especially our own children. Whatever problems they develope is the result of thier own flaws, rather than a lack of guidance, love, support etc, right?
Originally posted by Bad wolfI think I get what you're saying. You feel that people who are happy all the time are often those who choose to live superficially. They see everyday things only in terms of how those things gratify without thinking beyond their own gratification. So a happy person might say, "Yum, a hamburger!" But a deeper person might say, "some poor cow had to die for me to have this burger" and feel sad.
Not quite, that you know less about what it means a little then?
Oh, please note that I guess you have take ages into consideration, you're older than me, so probably know more about what sadness means purely because you've had more experiences.
I'm thinking people around my age when I say these things.
You are saying that you prefer people who aren't afraid to delve more deeply into subjects or issues - even if it means they get angry or sad - to people who just kind of skim along the surface. Is that right?
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Originally posted by MimorYes, yes, that's it I think! 🙂
I think I get what you're saying. You feel that people who are happy all the time are often those who choose to live superficially. They see everyday things only in terms of how those things gratify without thinking beyond their own gratification. So a happy person might say, "Yum, a hamburger!" But a deeper person might say, "some poor cow had to die for ...[text shortened]... they get angry or sad - to people who just kind of skim along the surface. Is that right?
Originally posted by MimorTo the 'inner peace' happy person, the hamburger is not relevant to his well being and therefore has no affect. External circumstances have little to do with their true satisfaction and well being.
I think I get what you're saying. You feel that people who are happy all the time are often those who choose to live superficially. They see everyday things only in terms of how those things gratify without thinking beyond their own gratification. So a happy person might say, "Yum, a hamburger!" But a deeper person might say, "some poor cow had to die for ...[text shortened]... they get angry or sad - to people who just kind of skim along the surface. Is that right?