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there is good rap and there is bad rap, like anything else.
rap often has a good cadence to it and I like percussion so, yeah, some rap is good.

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@earl-of-trumps said
there is good rap and there is bad rap, like anything else.
rap often has a good cadence to it and I like percussion so, yeah, some rap is good.
Trouble is that's not what I hear the kids at school listening to.
It's always some profanity-laden nonsense about how they are the baddest in the world, bustin' caps shootin' cops, beatin' Ho's robbin' stoes', etc.
Even in the classroom, when a student asks if they can play a rap song and assures me it's OK, the first thing I hear is a bunch of words that rhyme with a lot of profanity, and they are oblivious why I take it off and say that it's not appropriate, because that's how they talk in their everyday conversations and that's usually the language they hear at home. They are mystified as to why it's not OK for a classroom environment.
Rap has only a negative influence on kids.


@dood111 said
Trouble is that's not what I hear the kids at school listening to.
It's always some profanity-laden nonsense about how they are the baddest in the world, bustin' caps shootin' cops, beatin' Ho's robbin' stoes', etc.
Even in the classroom, when a student asks if they can play a rap song and assures me it's OK, the first thing I hear is a bunch of words that rhyme with a lo ...[text shortened]... ified as to why it's not OK for a classroom environment.
Rap has only a negative influence on kids.
Agreed.
Problem is, the truth about black culture cannot be discussed without being called a racist. The culture has been spilled into rap music. People want to like the 'music' while ignoring the reality of what's going on.

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@great-big-stees said
understanding the “musical” genre called Rap...anyone else?🤔
Rap is not something I enjoy either, but it's comforting to watch the black rap and hip hoper's on you tube reviewing to concerts from folks like Eric Clapton and Journey, convinced they just heard the greatest music ever created. 🙂





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Good thing they have a racist role model to look into in yourself.


@trev33 said
Good thing they have a racist role model to look into in yourself.
Say what you want, I'm speaking from experience and from what I've seen, not just something I saw on the news.


@chaney3 said
Say what you want, I'm speaking from experience and from what I've seen, not just something I saw on the news.
If you’re actually in any kind of educational role, what hope do they have? The experience of a racist is still a racist.


@trev33 said
If you’re actually in any kind of educational role, what hope do they have? The experience of a racist is still a racist.
I never said I was in an Educational role.
Your quote "the experience of a racist is still a racist" is BS!!!

Me stating what I SEE is not racist!!
It is truth.

And your response is exactly why nobody can have a truthful discussion on the matter, because you ignore the facts and resort to the race card.

People like you is why black culture has NO hope, because you bury your head in the sand and pretend there's no problem.


@chaney3 said
I never said I was in an Educational role.
Your quote "the experience of a racist is still a racist" is BS!!!

Me stating what I SEE is not racist!!
It is truth.

And your response is exactly why nobody can have a truthful discussion on the matter, because you ignore the facts and resort to the race card.

People like you is why black culture has NO hope, because you bury your head in the sand and pretend there's no problem.
People like me is the reason why black people have no hope, says the racist. Interesting. What the racist sees is and will always be seen by the eyes of a racist.

Oh, there’s a massive problem, why are black graduates paid less than white graduates?

I’ve seen different races, classes and religions being mistreated and victimised all over the world, you know what the problem always is, the people doing the mistreating and victimisation.


@chaney3 said

Me stating what I SEE is not racist!!
It is truth.
Not understanding the reasons behind what you see might be a tad racist.


@trev33 said
People like me is the reason why black people have no hope, says the racist. Interesting. What the racist sees is and will always be seen by the eyes of a racist.

Oh, there’s a massive problem, why are black graduates paid less than white graduates?

I’ve seen different races, classes and religions being mistreated and victimised all over the world, you know what the problem always is, the people doing the mistreating and victimisation.
So you will focus on me, and ignore the problems in the black community, such as crime, drugs, welfare abuse, violence, and an unwillingness to work?

We cannot have a discussion then.

Black youth grow up desiring the THUG life, as portrayed in rap music, instead of seeking employment.

Keep ignoring the facts, it's easier.


@ghost-of-a-duke said
Not understanding the reasons behind what you see might be a tad racist.
I would be willing to discuss those reasons, but the discussion never gets that far because the race card is always introduced first.

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@chaney3 said
So you will focus on me, and ignore the problems in the black community, such as crime, drugs, welfare abuse, violence, and an unwillingness to work?

We cannot have a discussion then.

Black youth grow up desiring the THUG life, as portrayed in rap music, instead of seeking employment.

Keep ignoring the facts, it's easier.
I was making a genuine observation. What is the lead up to the crime, drugs etc?

Are perhaps deprivation, inequality, discrimination, disadvantage factors?

Edit: Sorry thought your post was a reply to mine.


Here's a defense attorney in a large city's take on things, worth reading:
https://www.amren.com/commentary/2022/01/what-a-white-liberal-learned-about-race-working-as-a-public-defender/