@ghost-of-a-duke said
Yes. What do the stats relate to? What country? How big was the sample? Is it a recent study?

Why not provide the link to where you found them?

@very-rusty said
To be sure we are on the same page here are you talking about this:

Well in Canada the Psychiatrist is paid alot more than the Psychologist.

I am assuming the Psychiatrist would be considered better, if you go by what they are paid.

-VR

@very-rusty said
I completely agree especially where the rates are so high compared to the average from stats I've seen that may or may not be accurate.

Suicide Rates Among Psychiatrists. To the Editor.— A high suicide rate among psychiatrists (58 to 65/100,000 compared with that of the general population, 11/100,000) has been reported by the following: Freeman, Blachly et al, DeSole et al, and Pond.

-VR

@ghost-of-a-duke said
This post of yours, for example, relates to an article in 1973 and concludes with the words:

'Such conclusions cannot be more reliable than the data on which they are based. Because of the well-known under-reporting of suicide, the reliability of such data is low.'

https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/article-abstract/347723

A lot of people are killing themselves who have never suffered from any type of death previously.

@very-rusty said
I didn't notice the difference in the years, so things may have changed....I will see if I can find something more updated. As you said this is older stats.

-VR

@ghost-of-a-duke said
Obliged sir.

That article was actually written the year I was born.

😲

@executioner-brand said
because of the reactions to the forced medications. as it turns out these meds do not mix with cigarette* smoking.

nasty stuff in the mouth was the combination of mental health drugs and smoking that tastes like poison and makes you feel extremely unwell. waking in the middle of the night in summer in extreme sweats having constant cold showers day and night.
...[text shortened]... passed away by overdose.

thank god for cannabis which makes so many 'unbearable' things bearable.

@caesar-salad said
Sorry to ask the obvious, but have you tried not smoking cigarettes?

Do nicotine patches also lead to a bad combination?

I'm sure you know your own situation and are navigating it as well as you can, so wishing you well in any case.

@ghost-of-a-duke said
People with some mental health conditions (such as schizophrenia) who are smokers, will often have their dosage of antipsychotics reduced if they managed to give up smoking. (The reason for this is that smoking stimulates dopaminergic activity in the brain, reducing the effectiveness of the drugs).

@very-rusty said
Are you qualified to say if someone has a mental health condition?

-VR

@ghost-of-a-duke said
I used 'people' in general terms, not about any one individual. (Deliberately so).

And yes, I am qualified to say that. (Although don't see how that is relevant to me sharing commonly understood information about smoking and anti-psychotics).

@very-rusty said
Well because it actually sounded like you knew what you were talking about.

So you do work in the medical field. Probably why you took exception when suicides about phsyhiatrists and phscologists were brought up.

-VR

@ghost-of-a-duke said
I have spoken openly many times about working in mental health.

So yes, I do know what I am talking about. It's what I do for a living.

@very-rusty said
Ok, I probably missed that along the way.

So what is your title at work?

-VR