Originally posted by Red Nightso people have different opinions. big deal, move on.
You get three or four people constantly repeating what Rags says and a half dozen others saying things like this.
As soon as someone say's something along these lines, they get attacked.
We get told that we are childish and should grow up and deal with the things you are posting.
We also get told that our posts are out-of-line and show how trouble ...[text shortened]... he last of the "dissidents" who doesn't dance to the beat of their demented inner drummer.
Originally posted by RagnorakWhat a loser, you keep twisting things, kid, but I won't bother excavating posts as you do. Just to refresh your memory, it all started because you were defending XanthosNZ while I consider him very low because of some antisemitic posts/jokes he made, and then you popped that thing of me being homophobic, when that is just impossible, do you read: impossible. I do accept my phobias, and I say face to face that I have, for example,
Pray tell, how am I harassing and stalking you? Have a look through the recent history of our posts, and see who responds to who first? Hell, just have a quick flick through this thread.
You're winning on PM count as well, having sent me 7, while I sent you 4. We both initiated an exchange each, one where you asked me who FNM was, and one where I aske ...[text shortened]... you keep seeming to pop up in threads that I have posted in.
Have a nice life, seitse.
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(1) an animosity against the Catholic church (which sjeg, for example, can speak about widely because we have argued long)
(2) A tremendous philia towards Israel, which has caused some people to think I am anti-palestinian, which I am not but I understand that my pro-Israel beliefs can be interpreted as that (ask RedMike about it, he can speak widely about it)
But no more, do you understand? No more, but specially NOT homophobic.
However, that is not the point, but YOU defending a person I've tried to ban because of what I see as antisemitism.
That's what started everything, and don't you lie about it. That started an exchange of PM's in which, by the way, you were the first trying to put me down (for some reason I don't understand) and you even visited my blog and tried to offend me saying my poetry sucks (which I don't care, but it illustrates that you hate me badly because you invested your time in me).
So, am I lying here? Have a straight face and speak the truth at least for once.
Originally posted by SeitseWell, it could just be my own paranoia playing up, but are you sure you understand the difference between anti-Israeli/zionistic and anti-semitic?
What a loser, you keep twisting things, kid, but I won't bother excavating posts as you do. Just to refresh your memory, it all started because you were defending XanthosNZ while I consider him very low because of some antisemitic posts/jokes he made, and then you popped that thing of me being homophobic, when that is just impossible, do you read: [b]impossib ...[text shortened]... me).
So, am I lying here? Have a straight face and speak the truth at least for once.
I've not been around a lot recently, but as far as I have seen, I've not seen XanthosNZ actually post something which I deem to be inherently racist.
Do you have an example, one where's not directly trying to provoke you personally (although I can't find them either).
Originally posted by shavixmirIt's a long story, please refer to the encounter RedMike and I had because of this subject -which, by the way, I consider useless to bring back to life and specially here in General Forum.
Well, it could just be my own paranoia playing up, but are you sure you understand the difference between anti-Israeli/zionistic and anti-semitic?
I've not been around a lot recently, but as far as I have seen, I've not seen XanthosNZ actually post something which I deem to be inherently racist.
Do you have an example, one where's not directly trying to provoke you personally (although I can't find them either).
As for Xanthos' postings, which are not in discussion here as well (because I mentioned only as a reference for Rag), they were recorded in time by the mods, particularly BelgianFreak and you can ask him about my alerts and exchange of PM's with him.
So, these are not the points, but why a person should turn against me just because I was trying to ban one of his buddies. Simple as that, and of course that sparkled the old discussion about the clan wars (which is nonsense) and how Ragnorak is trying to twist the things saying I admitedly like to flame -when I only explained to the kid that this is internet and it's not real life, so some bashing is o.k. as long as it doesn't go too far -take as an example how I always call Hand of Hecate a coprophiliac, when he starts his bashing, colorful threads.
And so on, and so forth.
Originally posted by SeitseI oppose the banning of anyone.
It's a long story, please refer to the encounter RedMike and I had because of this subject -which, by the way, I consider useless to bring back to life and specially here in General Forum.
As for Xanthos' postings, which are not in discussion here as well (because I mentioned only as a reference for Rag), they were recorded in time by the mods, particularl ...[text shortened]... e a coprophiliac, when he starts his bashing, colorful threads.
And so on, and so forth.
Even Philidor or Chancre.
And so I can totally understand people standing up for each other. As I stand up to be counted on the Chancre affair and Dr. Scribbles disaster.
On the forums you will meet loads of people. Some you might like, some you might find ignorant. Indeed, some I will chase to the opposite end of the proverbial chess board, just to irritate them. But they do have a right to post their opinions, just as I have.
And that is something that we should cherish.
Would you rather have these characters go underground and continue out of sight? Lord no, let them say it out loud, where they can be challenged and corrected!
Originally posted by SeitseThat's alright, I understand that any 'bashing' you do of me is out of deep seated jealousy. This is a burden I've had to carry many times and, for you, I'll glady shoulder the load again. Afterall, you're not heavy, you're my brother.
....so some bashing is o.k. as long as it doesn't go too far -take as an example how I always call Hand of Hecate a coprophiliac, when he starts his bashing, colorful threads.
And so on, and so forth.
PS: You're also a plonker.
Originally posted by shavixmirUnderground, shav?!?! THIS is underground. You know perfectly
I oppose the banning of anyone.
Even Philidor or Chancre.
And so I can totally understand people standing up for each other. As I stand up to be counted on the Chancre affair and Dr. Scribbles disaster.
On the forums you will meet loads of people. Some you might like, some you might find ignorant. Indeed, some I will chase to the opposite end of ...[text shortened]... nue out of sight? Lord no, let them say it out loud, where they can be challenged and corrected!
well who the racists are in the debates forum, for example, and I think
you know those kids don't have the courage to voice such hatred
face to face in the streets.
I agree with you with the chancre issue, for example, but when it boils
down to stupid 20 year old know-it-all, arrogant, outcasts who try to
call attention making fun of minorities or people with disabilities (or
cancer), it is just crazy. If their parents did not teach them how to
respect then they may learn in this "microcosmos" of society... sort of.
Originally posted by Hand of HecateYour place or my place?
That's alright, I understand that any 'bashing' you do of me is out of deep seated jealousy. This is a burden I've had to carry many times and, for you, I'll glady shoulder the load again. Afterall, you're not heavy, you're my brother.
PS: You're also a plonker.
Originally posted by SeitseThis isn't underground.
Underground, shav?!?! [b]THIS is underground. You know perfectly
well who the racists are in the debates forum, for example, and I think
you know those kids don't have the courage to voice such hatred
face to face in the streets.
I agree with you with the chancre issue, for example, but when it boils
down to stupid 20 year old know-it-all, arrogant ...[text shortened]... teach them how to
respect then they may learn in this "microcosmos" of society... sort of.[/b]
People will pick up various arguments, etc.
Underground is when they only meet their own little cliques and digress into paranoid fears, which no one can contradict.