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    @gambiteer said
    @lemondrop

    By coincidence, I happen to be tackling one of my bucket list books at this time.

    I acquired one of the older Kindle eReaders in a stack of electronic widgets I bought, and I downloaded some classic books from Project Gutenberg, so now after thinking about it for many years, I'm actually reading "The Art of War" by Sun Tzu.
    I think that book is still required reading at West Point
    and I have read it
    a lot of nuggets there
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    12 Oct '19 21:35
    @lemondrop
    I 've started "Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance" 3 times.
    I'd like to read it full one day.
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    @wolfgang59 said
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    I 've started "Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance" 3 times.
    I'd like to read it full one day.
    just a note
    the authors son who rides with him in the book was murdered in, I believe, San Francisco
    sad but at least he got to journey with his son
    I am not giving anything away by this note
    hope you do finish it one day
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    @lemondrop said
    just a note
    the authors son who rides with him in the book was murdered in, I believe, San Francisco
    sad but at least he got to journey with his son
    I am not giving anything away by this note
    hope you do finish it one day
    Didn't know that.
    ZAMM is acknowledged as a work of fiction - but based on real events.
    How closely based? I see from wiki that he died fairly recently.
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    @gambiteer said
    @lemondrop

    By coincidence, I happen to be tackling one of my bucket list books at this time.

    I acquired one of the older Kindle eReaders in a stack of electronic widgets I bought, and I downloaded some classic books from Project Gutenberg, so now after thinking about it for many years, I'm actually reading "The Art of War" by Sun Tzu.
    I have read TAoW several times.

    It is more useful than you might think. Many of its strategies can be adapted to daily life.
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    @wolfgang59 said
    Didn't know that.
    ZAMM is acknowledged as a work of fiction - but based on real events.
    How closely based? I see from wiki that he died fairly recently.
    You might be interested to read this article which appeared in the New York Times on March 30, 1975.

    https://www.nytimes.com/1975/03/30/archives/novelistic-autobiography-autobiographical-novel-no-matter-zen-and.html
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    @lemondrop said
    for me it's War and Peace
    I've tried it a couple of times but all the Russian names are confusing
    I'm not getting any younger and it won't be any easier
    if I don't get around to it within the nest 5 years I'll be scratching it off
    what about you?
    I have started and not finished Herman Melville's Moby Dick three times.

    One day I will finally finish it.

    Yes, my "white whale" IS a white whale.
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    There are many and as they appear I "order" them in from my local library but the list never seems to reduce as almost daily I hear of another one that catches my fancy. So I suspect that my list will never reach an end...which is OK by me.
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    @suzianne said
    I have started and not finished Herman Melville's Moby Dick three times.

    One day I will finally finish it.

    Yes, my "white whale" IS a white whale.
    I can say the same about "Anna Karenina".
    I'm hoping to catch a ride on Lev's train before it leaves the station.

    (Forgive me, I'm sucking for an obscure metaphor this morning. 🙂)
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    @wolfe63 said
    I can say the same about "Anna Karenina".
    I'm hoping to catch a ride on Lev's train before it leaves the station.

    (Forgive me, I'm sucking for an obscure metaphor this morning. 🙂)
    Is this a metaphor? “Life is a moderately good play with a badly written third act.”
    ― Truman Capote
    I love it.
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    @great-big-stees said
    Is this a metaphor? “Life is a moderately good play with a badly written third act.”
    ― Truman Capote
    I love it.
    “It's a funny thing about life, once you begin to take note of the things you are grateful for, you begin to lose sight of the things that you lack.”
    ― Germany Kent

    I have read such good books lately, it is difficult to find those that compare.
    Some of them have been slow and difficult to get into, to find the characters but when that is achieved, there is nothing like a really good read.
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    Why are we compelled to return to a long, digressive book we had trouble getting through in the first place? Life is short, good books are plentiful.
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    To read the final two novels in the Game Of Thrones series...It ain't gonna happen.
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    @handyandy said
    Why are we compelled to return to a long, digressive book we had trouble getting through in the first place? Life is short, good books are plentiful.
    Because you know that you will like it - you just have to get used to the writer's individual way to express himself (or her), find the rhythm of the text, the structure of the chapters. This can be difficult but there is something in the early part of the novel that makes you curious and maybe you are amazed by the writer's poetic expression - you can't stop but it is tiresome too. 🙂
    If by your comment you mean books that we are struggling with at the beginning.
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    @torunn said
    Because you know that you will like it - you just have to get used to the writer's individual way to express himself (or her), find the rhythm of the text, the structure of the chapters. This can be difficult but there is something in the early part of the novel that makes you curious and maybe you are amazed by the writer's poetic expression - you can't stop but it is tiresome too. 🙂
    If by your comment you mean books that we are struggling with at the beginning.
    I mean books like War and Peace that you read as far as Page 500, put it down, and then return to it three years later and go back to the beginning, and manage to read as far as Page 475... Whew!
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