@kilroy70 saidI should have figured you wanted something out of it! 😛 🙂
I would prefer cash but yes, a simple thank you will do. 🤓
-VR
@very-rusty saidThe same applies in shops here too. They don't want to handle cash because of risk of robbery.
Oh I have the cards if I need to use them too! 🙂 Do you know there are places will not accept cash which is legal tender? I don't know how they get away with it.
-VR
@kilroy70 saidLOL....Reminds me of picking up a sectional. The Salesperson said what charge card will you be using. I said do you deal with cash. He just looked at me and after about 10 seconds said we aren't use to people having that amount of cash on them. Then had to get another person to help him....I had a good chuckle about that one. 🙂
Old-timers like me do. One time I laid down a few hundred dollars for some electrical equipment, and the teller just stared at it for awhile. It was like she didn't know what it was she was looking at.
-VR
@kilroy70 saidYes, I think you're right, and I would like to disagree with my last post.
The pills, the chemicals in the pills, were telling her brain she was pregnant, athough her mind knew she wasn't. Body and brain are physical structures inextricably linked together. So if the body shuts down production of eggs because the brain believes the body is pregnant (which is not true), then how is she able to know what is true?
This leads me to believe the mind is housed in the physical structure of the body/brain, but is not in itself a physical structure.
@indonesia-phil saidI went to have a peek and appears you removed it. If that was the one?
Yes, I think you're right, and I would like to disagree with my last post.
-VR
@very-rusty saidNo, that wasn't the one, I was referring to my last and still there response to Kilroy70.
I went to have a peek and appears you removed it. If that was the one?
-VR
@kilroy70 removed their quoted postLet's say that the mind is the patterns of information moving within the brain rather than the physical substance of the brain.
Imagine I can build an exact replica of you. Clearly it is a physically different brain and body. But the patterns within the flow of information and the storage are exactly the same. The memories are identical. If you are just the patterns that constitute the mind are there now two of you?
Neither of the two minds can know which was originally you. The memories and patterns of dynamic interaction are identical. Nobody who knows you can tell which one of them was originally you.
Now, if I kill one of them you will live on. But do you?
@relentless-red saidEven if it was possible to create an identical twin of myself, that would not negate my mind or make it somehow transferable to my twin.
Let's say that the mind is the patterns of information moving within the brain rather than the physical substance of the brain.
Imagine I can build an exact replica of you. Clearly it is a physically different brain and body. But the patterns within the flow of information and the storage are exactly the same. The memories are identical. If you are just the patterns ...[text shortened]... ll which one of them was originally you.
Now, if I kill one of them you will live on. But do you?
An interesting thing about identical twins is as they get older the differences between them become more apparent, regardless of their physically identical make up. As close as they may be physically and mentally they each have their own minds... as individually unique to themselves as yours is to you.
@relentless-red saidThe scary thing about America is that the third of the population who will never achieve full moral autonomy are allowed to own guns. It’s a recipe for disaster. Over and over.
Being serious Ghost was obviously completely right that it can be moral to lie.
I read an article years ago that was based around Piaget's theory of stages of cognitive development. Whilst there are many flaws in that theory it raised some interesting points about why people might get in a muddle about when it is okay to tell a lie.
Long story short, it conclude ...[text shortened]... urther evidence that we should arm the aardvarks and let them take charge of more complex scenarios.
@kilroy70 saidThe mind exists in the same sense in which responsibility or an opportunity does. You know it when you see it, but you can’t catch it in a bucket.
Yes. You can say the mind is or performs a function. But unlke the function of say, a pawn, the mind is consciously aware of itself.
We can see pictures of bodies and brains because they are tangible objects. But has anyone seen or measured a mind? The mind is intangible, and cannot be seen because it is not a physical object. So as you said the mind is not a THING in the physical sense, but it does appear to exist as something more (or other) than a function.
@suzianne saidSometimes 1 + 1 = 3 or more. You may want to think about that one. 🙂
Only if one doesn't know what they're talking about. To someone with an education, it becomes like having to source a statement as obvious as 1+1=2.
-VR