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"... men without chests."

Ever notice the contemporary disregard for protocols of magnanimity and the historic manhood codes:

"The magnanimity of Alexander towards the captive Porus. Magnanimity (derived from the Latin roots magn- great, and animus, mind, literally means greatly generous) is the virtue of being great of mind and heart. It encompasses, usually, a refusal to be petty, a willingness to face danger, and actions for noble purposes. Its antithesis is pusillanimity.

"Magnanimity is a latinization of the Greek word megalopsuchia which means greatness of soul and was identified by Aristotle as "the crowning virtue". Although the word magnanimity has a traditional connection to Aristotelian philosophy, it also has its own tradition in English which now causes some confusion.

"Noah Webster's 1828 Dictionary of the American Language defines Magnanimity as such: MAGNANIMITY, n. [L. magnanimitas; magnus, great, and animus, mind.] Greatness of mind; that elevation or dignity of soul, which encounters danger and trouble with tranquility and firmness, which raises the possessor above revenge, and makes him delight in acts of benevolence, which makes him disdain injustice and meanness, and prompts him to sacrifice personal ease, interest and safety for the accomplishment of useful and noble objects. In his Nicomachean Ethics, Aristotle considered it the suitable virtue for a great man, arising from his other virtues.

"Edmund Spenser, in The Faerie Queen, had each knight allegorically represent a virtue; Prince Arthur represented "magnificence", which is generally taken to mean Aristotelian magnificence. The uncompleted work does not include Prince Arthur's book, and the significance is not clear.

"Democritus states that "magnanimity consists in enduring tactlessness with mildness".

"As an adjective, the concept is expressed as "magnanimous", e.g. "He is a magnanimous man." An example of referring to one as magnanimous can be seen in Hrólfs saga kraka where King Hrólfr Kraki changes the name of a court servant from Hott to Hjalti for his new-found strength and courage, after which Hjalti refuses to taunt or kill those who previously mocked him. Because of his noble actions, the king then bestows the title Magnanimous upon Hjalti.

"One form of magnanimity is the generosity of the victor to the defeated. For example, magnanimity has been codified between societies by the Geneva Conventions. Magnanimous relief efforts can serve to offset the collateral damage of war.

"Winston Churchill is famously quoted as saying "In War: Resolution. In Defeat: Defiance. In Victory: Magnanimity. In Peace: Goodwill."


"C. S. Lewis, in his book The Abolition of Man, refers to the chest of man as the seat of magnanimity, or sentiment, with this magnanimity working as the liaison between visceral and cerebral man. Lewis asserts that in his time, the denial of the emotions that are found in the eternal, the sublime, that which is humbling as an objective reality, had led to "men without chests." -wiki


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Originally posted by Grampy Bobby
[b]"... men without chests."

Ever notice the contemporary disregard for protocols of magnanimity and the historic manhood codes:

"The magnanimity of Alexander towards the captive Porus. Magnanimity (derived from the Latin roots magn- great, and animus, mind, literally means greatly generous) is the virtue of being great of mind and hea ...[text shortened]... eality, had led to "men without chests." -wiki


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Do you know any magnanimous women?

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Originally posted by HandyAndy
Do you know any magnanimous women?

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Hey, Andy. It's a blessed Sunday morning coming down. Rather than indulge in Pablum feeding time, may I suggest you

take the initiative to launch a twin thread titled "... women without chests". Be interesting to see what you uncover.


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Originally posted by Grampy Bobby
Hey, Andy. It's a blessed Sunday morning coming down. Rather than indulge in Pablum feeding time, may I suggest you

take the initiative to launch a twin thread titled [b]"... women without chests".
Be interesting to see what you uncover.


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It's just a simple question, Bobby. Yes or no.

Or do you believe that magnanimity, i.e., generosity, benevolence, unselfishness, is a quality reserved exclusively for men?

No pablum, Bobby. Yes or no.

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Originally posted by HandyAndy
It's just a simple question, Bobby. Yes or no.

Or do you believe that magnanimity, i.e., generosity, benevolence, unselfishness, is a quality reserved exclusively for men?

No pablum, Bobby. Yes or no.

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Pablum? I like thoup.

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Originally posted by HandyAndy
It's just a simple question, Bobby. Yes or no.

Or do you believe that magnanimity, i.e., generosity, benevolence, unselfishness, is a quality reserved exclusively for men?

No pablum, Bobby. Yes or no.

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Of course, my good man. Masculine gender is often employed in an inclusive sense.


P.S. Couldn't resist the obvious title for the twin thread I suggested for you.


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Originally posted by Grampy Bobby
Of course, my good man. Masculine gender is often employed in an inclusive sense.
I'll try one last time.

Do you believe that magnanimity, as defined in your "historic manhood codes," is a quality or virtue found only in males?

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Originally posted by HandyAndy
I'll try one last time.

Do you believe that magnanimity, as defined in your "historic manhood codes," is a quality or virtue found [b]only
in males?

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Of course not, Andy. Good gracious you sometimes have a knack for being bulldogmatic dense. Neither gender has had, has now or ever will have any kind of exclusive corner or monopoly on the noble virtues, magnanimity, integrity, character strength, etc.

Within a home best to worst case scenarios imaginable in any culture, pristine or advanced: Both husband and wife possess these qualities (the children are twice blessed); Only the wife does (her maternal instincts rise to the ocassion to hold things together as only a wise mother with grit could); Only the husband does (his challenge becomes similarly immense); Neither does (divorce is statistically as probable as an automobile accident within a few miles of home... in which the children in the backseat suffer as innocent victims).

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Originally posted by Grampy Bobby
Ever notice the contemporary disregard for protocols of magnanimity and the historic manhood codes(?)
no...


i have noticed, however, lamentation without cause...
just because what yer wanting iz not served to you upon a clean plate, does not mean that it does not exist...

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Originally posted by Grampy Bobby
Good gracious you sometimes have a knack for being bulldogmatic dense.
I guess I just have a low tolerance for double talk and verbal tap dancing.

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We can dance if we want to
We can leave your friends behind
Cause your friends dont dance
And if they dont dance
Well they're no friends of mine
Say, we can go where we want to
A place where they will never find
And we can act like we come from out of this world
Because you're one far behind

We can dance

We can go where we want to
The night is young and so am i
And we can dress real neat
From out hats to our feet
Then surprise them with a big trick ride
Say, we can act if we want to
If we dont, nobody will
And you can act real rude
And totally removed
And i can act like an imbusil

Say, we can dance
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Everything's outta control

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We're doing it more and more
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Everybody look at your hands
We can dance
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Everybody's taking the cha-nce
It's safe to dance
Oh well, it's safe to dance
Yes, it's safe to dance

We can dance if we want to
We've got all your life and mine
As long as we abuse it
Never gonna lose it
Everything will work out right
I say, we can dance if we want to
We can leave your friends behind
Because your friends dont dance
And if they dont dance
Well they're no friends of mine

I say, we can dance
We can dance
Everything's outta control
We can dance
We can dance
We're doing it more and more
We can dance
We can dance
Everybody look at your hands
We can dance
We can dance
Everybody's taking the cha-ance
Well, it's safe to dance
Yes, it's safe to dance
Well, it's safe to dance
Oh well, it's safe to dance
Ah yes, it's safe to dance
Well, it's safe to dance
It's safe to dance
It's safe to dance

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Originally posted by HandyAndy
I guess I just have a low tolerance for double talk and verbal tap dancing.
Without self confidence and a healthy sense of humor a person, young or old, begins imagining the sound

of footsteps and leaves falling and becomes threatened by anything slightly different, much less new.

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Wut?

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Originally posted by huckleberryhound

Wut?
How timely an entrance stage left. Thanks, mister huckleberryhound, for providing

such a perfect example. Hopefully it'll serve as an object lesson for HandyAndy.

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Originally posted by Grampy Bobby
[b]"... men without chests."

Ever notice the contemporary disregard for protocols of magnanimity and the historic manhood codes:

"The magnanimity of Alexander towards the captive Porus. Magnanimity (derived from the Latin roots magn- great, and animus, mind, literally means greatly generous) is the virtue of being great of mind and hea ...[text shortened]... eality, had led to "men without chests." -wiki


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Lots of definitions, but no examples. Can you give examples of what you consider the contemporary disregard...?

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