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Originally posted by wormwood
chess is a motor skill. nothing to do with intelligence.
got any citations?

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Originally posted by cheater2
got any citations?
http://arjournals.annualreviews.org/doi/abs/10.1146%2Fannurev.psych.52.1.453

well, okay, maybe that's not so to the point.

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Originally posted by wormwood
http://arjournals.annualreviews.org/doi/abs/10.1146%2Fannurev.psych.52.1.453

well, okay, maybe that's not so to the point.
Where does it say that chess is a motor skill specifically Prof wormwood? You are right its not anywhere close.

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Originally posted by cheater2
Where does it say that chess is a motor skill specifically Prof wormwood? You are right its not anywhere close.
it says to me. it's not written as 'chess is a motor skill' though.

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Originally posted by wormwood
it says to me. it's not written as 'chess is a motor skill' though.
If that were true then those players who Kasparov referred to as "just like trained dogs" would be on top of the rankings then surely? People would just memorize large potions of the game and just churn them out like robots.


Originally posted by cheater2
If that were true then those players who Kasparov "referred to a just like trained dogs" would be on top of the rankings then surely? People would just memorize large potions of the game and just churn them out like robots.
You can train 12 hours a day, but you'll never run like Usain Bolt.

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Originally posted by Blackamp
i'm not going to name names, but there seem to be a few of these about here at GF. what's the story here? a lot of people think that ability at chess is an indicator of intelligence, but the evidence suggests otherwise. i'd like to advance a theory, which i think is quite elegant in its simplicity and explanatory power. it is simply this:

that such peopl notice a thing), ask your carer to PM me (you know, the one who is reading this out to you).
I guess all strong players should be facist nancy boys such as yourself then? Wrong! You nerd turd

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Originally posted by cheater2
got any citations?
Christ, not you again.

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Originally posted by Palynka
You can train 12 hours a day, but you'll never run like Usain Bolt.
Or play like Barry Bonds

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Is everyone having fun yet?

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Originally posted by cheater2
If that were true then those players who Kasparov referred to as "just like trained dogs" would be on top of the rankings then surely? People would just memorize large potions of the game and just churn them out like robots.
they are, and kasparov was one of them.

(with the disclaimer that motor skill is not memorization, it's procedural knowledge vs. declarative knowledge.)

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Originally posted by wormwood
they are, and kasparov was one of them.

(with the disclaimer that motor skill is not memorization, it's procedural knowledge vs. declarative knowledge.)
Rec'd. Where or how did you obtain this insight, Worm?

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Originally posted by Grampy Bobby
Rec'd. Where or how did you obtain this insight, Worm?
gradually along the way. minored in information science, which meant a lot of machine learning and neural computing, which led to the 'wet' side of it ie. neuroscience, then last 4 years of adapting it all to chess studying, etc etc...

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Originally posted by Blackamp
i'm not going to name names
i cain't play chess worth a fart,
and i iz dumb az a post when i post...
but yer woman done tole me,
tween you an me, i got tha most...

ahhhhhhh... 😀

rookie

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Originally posted by wormwood
gradually along the way. minored in information science, which meant a lot of machine learning and neural computing, which led to the 'wet' side of it ie. neuroscience, then last 4 years of adapting it all to chess studying, etc etc...
From your point of view does an imaginative 'what if' play of mind or bent curiosity, mentored creativity

in the application of sound chess principles, raw intuitive sense and retention of contiguous patterns,

conceptual grasp of things abstract and spatial or stream of events recognition play a significant role?