27 Apr 07
I read on the BBC website today about a call from some alcohol awareness charity to ban parents giving their children alcohol under the age of 15. As a child I was brought up on wine with water with most of my family meals. That was my parent’s choice in educating me in sensible drinking. I believe this approach had a positive effect. However my issue is, this is one of many in a long line of ideas and suggested legislation from the UK over the past few years that make’s me feel I live in a Nanny state. More and more it seems that the UK government and certain 'do good' groups within the UK want to force us into what we can and can’t do and how we should be living our lives instead of allowing us the responsibility of leading our own lives.
Am I out of touch with the UK and life, or is the UK going mad, and/or is this happening all over the world? 😕
27 Apr 07
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Half the kids aged 15 round here are getting drunk on a regular basis. And causing aggro afterwards - so anything to maybe counteract that is a good thing I think.
There's nothing worse than trying to cope with belligerent 15 year olds and younger kids, out of their brains on drink.
27 Apr 07
Originally posted by Dr StrangeloveThe ends justify the means?😕
Half the kids aged 15 round here are getting drunk on a regular basis. And causing aggro afterwards - so anything to maybe counteract that is a good thing I think.
There's nothing worse than trying to cope with belligerent 15 year olds and younger kids, out of their brains on drink.
27 Apr 07
Originally posted by Dr StrangeloveI agree with monster truck, and indeed that’s the point I was trying to explore. The problem you speak about is a anti social behaviour problem, you can not deal with that by taking away responsibility from people, i.e. telling them what they can and cannot do in order to educate or bring up their children, you can of course advise.
Half the kids aged 15 round here are getting drunk on a regular basis. And causing aggro afterwards - so anything to maybe counteract that is a good thing I think.
There's nothing worse than trying to cope with belligerent 15 year olds and younger kids, out of their brains on drink.
I doubt very much that implementing a ban such as I described would bring those kids of the street, maybe better policing of the shops that supply them.
27 Apr 07
Originally posted by Dr StrangeloveErr they don't. You are quite happy for the UK government to slowly erode our rights, freedom and sense of responsibility of our own lives in order to try and solve some social issues. No. The way to deal with them through education and community schemes and actually trying to understand the problem and fix that instead of implementing ideas and legislation that effects the majority because of the few.
You are correct, they do. In this case.
I think so.
27 Apr 07
Originally posted by 1WhiteKnightHalf of the 'offending' parents are virtually kids themselves. They were not brought up properly and hence have no idea how to bring their own kids up properly. These are the ones who need nannying.
Err they don't. You are quite happy for the UK government to slowly erode our rights, freedom and sense of responsibility of our own lives in order to try and solve some social issues. No. The way to deal with them through education and community schemes and actually trying to understand the problem and fix that instead of implementing ideas and legislation that effects the majority because of the few.
27 Apr 07
Originally posted by Dr StrangeloveFine, I agree with you there, but not at the expense of the majority of people who do not want that kind of responsibility taken from them. If when I have children I decide that I would like to introduce alcohol to them at an early age so as to educate them in the social context in which it is good to drink as well as displaying the fact that drinking is no big thing then I want that choice. Seem fair?
Half of the 'offending' parents are virtually kids themselves. They were not brought up properly and hence have no idea how to bring their own kids up properly. These are the ones who need nannying.
27 Apr 07
Originally posted by 1WhiteKnightFair enough if you intend to be a responsible parent anyway, in which case it wouldn't affect you. Would it?
Fine, I agree with you there, but not at the expense of the majority of people who do not want that kind of responsibility taken from them. If when I have children I decide that I would like to introduce alcohol to them at an early age so as to educate them in the social context in which it is good to drink as well as displaying the fact that drinking is no big thing then I want that choice. Seem fair?
27 Apr 07
Originally posted by 1WhiteKnightI think you'll find that people reared on drinking wine with their dinners keep their wine drinking quite seperate from their binge drinking.
I read on the BBC website today about a call from some alcohol awareness charity to ban parents giving their children alcohol under the age of 15. As a child I was brought up on wine with water with most of my family meals. That was my parent’s choice in educating me in sensible drinking. I believe this approach had a positive effect. However my issue i ...[text shortened]... with the UK and life, or is the UK going mad, and/or is this happening all over the world? 😕
I say: Get those teenagers into parachute jumping, water-skiing, paint-balling and para-gliding. Widen their eyes a little.
Then teach them to THINK for themselves. Then teach them that thinking impairs their ability to live NOW.
It will work a lot better than banning alcohol...like that's ever worked...anywhere...
27 Apr 07
Originally posted by shavixmiryup..i'm sure most parents can afford such activities for their kids! 😕
I think you'll find that people reared on drinking wine with their dinners keep their wine drinking quite seperate from their binge drinking.
I say: Get those teenagers into parachute jumping, water-skiing, paint-balling and para-gliding. Widen their eyes a little.
Then teach them to THINK for themselves. Then teach them that thinking impairs their a ...[text shortened]... NOW.
It will work a lot better than banning alcohol...like that's ever worked...anywhere...
27 Apr 07
Originally posted by 1WhiteKnightThis is a worldwide phenomenon. Helmet laws, seatbelt laws, any rules that license builders and don't allow everyone to build what they like on their own land, no camping on the beaches, no fishing, hunting licenses... etc.
I read on the BBC website today about a call from some alcohol awareness charity to ban parents giving their children alcohol under the age of 15. As a child I was brought up on wine with water with most of my family meals. That was my parent’s choice in educating me in sensible drinking. I believe this approach had a positive effect. However my issue i ...[text shortened]... with the UK and life, or is the UK going mad, and/or is this happening all over the world? 😕
The reality is that there are rules which infringe our rights as individuals all over the place. Stop whining. You know - like me. I'm starting a campaign to lower the drinking age.
You can donate your hard earned money to "Drink for Kids" Campaign, C/O St00p1dfac3, Drugs for Kids Initiative, Pickering, Ontario, L1V 3J4, Canada.
Edit: All states are nanny states.