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National identity began where for your country?

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Australia & Gallipoli ... appararently australia found its identity in the battle here !?!?!
this is what our media tells us!

an empire on the other side of the world had us fight there, we were not even in control of our own troops .. and we lost that battle.

bizarre.
i do not see what it has to do with us.

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When a bunch of Spaniard adventurers went to America for 'margaritas and señoritas', loaded with priests and a coupleof diseases. They left Catholicism and in exchange they took 'some' natural resources 🙂

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Originally posted by flexmore
Australia & Gallipoli ... appararently australia found its identity in the battle here !?!?!
this is what our media tells us!

an empire on the other side of the world had us fight there, we were not even in control of our own troops .. and we lost that battle.

bizarre.
i do not see what it has to do with us.
Gallipoli taught us the British were a bunch of silly sods.




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Originally posted by dyl
Gallipoli taught us the British were a bunch of silly sods.




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Gallipoli taught us nothing .. we still vote for dickhead warmongerers who will throw our youth into political battles (such as Iraq)

good grief - tomorrow is Anzac day ... what a catastrophe!

Hey .. tragedy for all those killed ... but those who sent them to war should be the first to be shot ... instead their political descendants are there in dark suits with sombre expressions working on the next lot of sap voters/victims.

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Originally posted by flexmore
Australia & Gallipoli ... appararently australia found its identity in the battle here !?!?!
this is what our media tells us!

an empire on the other side of the world had us fight there, we were not even in control of our own troops .. and we lost that battle.

bizarre.
i do not see what it has to do with us.
In those years many Aussies still considered themselves to be 'connected' to the 'motherland'. Unlike now, I think the majority of immigrants were from Britain.
As the generations go by, these countries who once showed allegiance to Britain become more and more separated.
Most Brits still love the Aussies - they make excellent barmen. 😉


Edit, and one or two are reasonable cricket players.

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I'd say Viriathus kicking Roman butt. Even if Portugal didn't exist at the time, it is common to connect the people of Lusitania with the Portuguese.

I don't know if it's just for the romanticism in Viriathus holding the Roman Empire for as long as he did or if there really is an ethnical link.

As for Australia, I've never understood the limits of its independence from Britain. It's overall seen as independent, but then again, the Queen of England also holds the title as the Queen of Australia (even if delegated). Does it bother you, as Australians, it is so?

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When we beat up those ruthless American Indians and took thier land.

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When those naughty saxons invaded and changed us from peace loving Anglos to Anglos saxons. From then on it was drunken fights on the costa del sol and invading any country that had not yet entered the iron age.

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Originally posted by flexmore
Australia & Gallipoli ... appararently australia found its identity in the battle here !?!?!
this is what our media tells us!

an empire on the other side of the world had us fight there, we were not even in control of our own troops .. and we lost that battle.

bizarre.
i do not see what it has to do with us.
As a proud Englishman I must say that the Bravery of those Anzacs who gave their lives on some distant shore so that we could live in freedom as we do today cannot be spoken of too highly.

And as has been said the stupidity of those in charge cannot be stressed enough. However, they ordered troops from all the home and commonwealth nations to their deaths in equally futile attempts to capture 1/2 mile of mud filled trenches.

One thing that unites all those nations involved is that the troops all suffered at the hands of those in command.

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Originally posted by dyl
Gallipoli taught us the British were a bunch of silly sods.




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See what happens when we give our colonies a voice

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1972 Canada Cup

edit: just kidding.

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Originally posted by MaxWax
When we beat up those ruthless American Indians and took thier land.
Go back to your pot dummy.

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Originally posted by Palynka
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As for Australia, I've never understood the limits of its independence from Britain. It's overall seen as independent, but then again, the Queen of England also holds the title as the Queen of Australia (even if delegated). Does it bother you, as Australians, it is so?
on paper she holds a position of extreme power over our military ...

she has not tried to use this power for many decades ... it is mostly believed that it is only power on paper ... if she tried to use it almost all australians would surely rebel (except our prime minister).

many australians, including myself, think that this paperwork should be changed.

we have tried to change our constitution but our prime minister played a trick to make it fail.

while england has power on paper, the u.s.a. has no power on paper ... but of course the u.s.a. does largely succeed in being our new overseas master ... this situation makes people less concerned about the queen thing

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Originally posted by slimjim
Go back to your pot dummy.
The Amphetamines made you say that right?

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Originally posted by flexmore
on paper she holds a position of extreme power over our military ...

she has not tried to use this power for many decades ... it is mostly believed that it is only power on paper ... if she tried to use it almost all australians would surely rebel (except our prime minister).
Same applies in England and even includes our prime minister.