Originally posted by NZDrifterIf you want to debate then why did you just skirt around answering his questions?
I qualified it by saying "I believe" The majority of the post was my opinions. I intentionally chose this format as it is the most assured method of provoking debate. So thanks for your contribution! 😀
Originally posted by NZDrifterSince the beginning of time there have been those who have preached the end of the world. That thought has become particularly prevelent in our time, but that's not unprecedented.
Well I'm not going to try and argue every individual point with you. I will say that if we don't change then your predictions, I believe will be correct.
But I think we can and are changing.
"necessity is the mother of all invention"
Our enormous instinct for self preservation and our basic "goodness" as beings will be our saviour. Once we ha ...[text shortened]... e will be no stopping us. Our race will survive until the universe is no longer habitable.
So far, the doomsayers have been wrong.
August 22nd of this year is supposedly an Islamic end time date. The Christians are currently talking 2010 or 2011.
Nostradamus said 1999.
Originally posted by darvlayBecause the subject is pratically undebatable. There is no formal proof against the U.S administration so we can only speculate.
If you want to debate then why did you just skirt around answering his questions?
"Show me a poll..." pulling the poll card eh? I haven't seen any poll on the subject. But from intensive internet browsing and talking to many students, I did gain the impression the most believed that it was US engineered.
I MAY BE WRONG. But attacking my character will not prove this.
Originally posted by NZDrifterSo your poll group is students in New Zealand?
Because the subject is pratically undebatable. There is no formal proof against the U.S administration so we can only speculate.
"Show me a poll..." pulling the poll card eh? I haven't seen any poll on the subject. But from intensive internet browsing and talking to many students, I did gain the impression the most believed that it was US engineered.
I MAY BE WRONG. But attacking my character will not prove this.
Originally posted by NZDrifterAttacking your character may not, but attacking your expertise on the subject and your penchant for making up statistics is a most handy tactic in debating that most certainly will prove you wrong.
Because the subject is pratically undebatable. There is no formal proof against the U.S administration so we can only speculate.
"Show me a poll..." pulling the poll card eh? I haven't seen any poll on the subject. But from intensive internet browsing and talking to many students, I did gain the impression the most believed that it was US engineered.
I MAY BE WRONG. But attacking my character will not prove this.
Originally posted by darvlayTHERE WAS NO POLL.
Attacking your character may not, but attacking your expertise on the subject and your penchant for making up statistics is a most handy tactic in debating that most certainly will prove you wrong.
I DID NOT MAKE UP STATISTICS.
I NEVER CLAIMED TO BE STATING ANYTHING BUT AN OPINION!
Originally posted by NZDrifterBut, when someone wishes a debate, isn't the assumption of some facts, or at least logically sound arguments expected.
Because the subject is pratically undebatable. There is no formal proof against the U.S administration so we can only speculate.
"Show me a poll..." pulling the poll card eh? I haven't seen any poll on the subject. But from intensive internet browsing and talking to many students, I did gain the impression the most believed that it was US engineered.
I MAY BE WRONG. But attacking my character will not prove this.
The majority of my friends are a) intelligent, b) like me. Therefore can I conclude that most intelligent people like me?
Most people on RHP are neutral towards me. But of the people who have an opinion I think the majority don't like me. If we assume that chess players qualify as intelligent, can I then conclude that most intelligent people don't like me?
Nothing against your character, I was just expecting more rigorous logic from someone proposing a debate. (A glance at the debates forums makes me wonder *why* I was expecting this) 😛
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Originally posted by RookRAKSounds like questions in a IQ test. Of course your logic is ireffutable. But I think we are argueing at cross purposes to some extent. Perhaps this was because of a lack of clarity on my part.
But, when someone wishes a debate, isn't the assumption of some facts, or at least logically sound arguments expected.
The majority of my friends are a) intelligent, b) like me. Therefore can I conclude that most intelligent people like me?
Most people on RHP are neutral towards me. But of the people who have an opinion I think the majority don't like sing a debate. (A glance at the debates forums makes me wonder *why* I was expecting this) 😛
Let me rephrase.
Most of the people I have talked to about the subject of 9/11 DO think that it is suspicious.
I wasn't trying to start a debate. I am ill and have no energy for argueing. Simply a forum of opinions and facts relating to this topic would be most gratifying. Thank you.
Originally posted by NZDrifterFair enough.
Sounds like questions in a IQ test. Of course your logic is ireffutable. But I think we are argueing at cross purposes to some extent. Perhaps this was because a lack of clarity on my part.
Let me rephrase.
Most of the people I have talked to about the subject of 9/11 DO think that it is suspicious.
I wasn't trying to start a debate. I am ill ...[text shortened]... imply a forum of opinions and facts relating to this topic would be most gratifying. Thank you.
You might want to start hanging out with a more varied, and less paranoid crowd.😕
Originally posted by RookRAKI think that the word "paranoia" can be aptly applied to 99.9% of conspiracy theories. But in regards to 9/11 I *of sound mind* feel and overwelming sense of suspicion. here is one link that has clumisly brushed the surface of the issue.
Fair enough.
You might want to start hanging out with a more varied, and less paranoid crowd.😕
Originally posted by NZDrifterFor every major event in human history there has emerged a conspiracy theory.
I think that the word "paranoia" can be aptly applied to 99.9% of conspiracy theories. But in regards to 9/11 I *of sound mind* feel and overwelming sense of suspicion. here is one link http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U4WOXh8hbkI that has clumisly brushed the surface of the issue.
I disagree that most people think that the US government was involved in the 9/11 attacks.
Now, what most people think is not always a good basis for determining what is right.
In this case, I think that we would need substantially more information before we begin to implicate the US governement in this tragedy.
As a general rule I would suggest that you don't believe everything you read on the internet.