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Originally posted by rbmorris
I don't believe that for a second.
um... are you calling me a liar?

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Originally posted by Red Night
For every major event in human history there has emerged a conspiracy theory.

I disagree that most people think that the US government was involved in the 9/11 attacks.

Now, what most people think is not always a good basis for determining what is right.

In this case, I think that we would need substantially more information before we begin to i ...[text shortened]...
As a general rule I would suggest that you don't believe everything you read on the internet.
Of course I don't believe everything I read on the internet. I study all the information I come across and form my opinion afterwards.

Actually I don't really have an opinion. As I keep stating "I might be wrong." Perhaps this isn't clear enough. What I should say is I have lent towards a certain belief, but at the end of the day I DON'T KNOW

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Originally posted by NZDrifter
um... are you calling me a liar?
Probably not, he's probably disagreeing with the underlying statment that there is something suspicious about the 9/11 attacks and not the whole statement that most of the people you know believe there is.

It's sort of like IF you said that most of the people you talk to think that the holocaust never occurred.

And I said, I disagree with that. Most likely I'm disagreeing with your statment about the holocaust and not your statement about what your friends believe.

I have no idea who you hang out with or what they believe.

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Originally posted by NZDrifter
As I keep stating "I might be wrong." at the end of the day I DON'T KNOW
You think?

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Originally posted by Red Night
For every major event in human history there has emerged a conspiracy theory.

I disagree that most people think that the US government was involved in the 9/11 attacks.

Now, what most people think is not always a good basis for determining what is right.

In this case, I think that we would need substantially more information before we begin to i ...[text shortened]...
As a general rule I would suggest that you don't believe everything you read on the internet.
Right on the dot. Red night. Sorry the staement by NZ that " most People" consider the terrorist attacks to be orchestrated by the US government Reeks of conspiracy dung. I mean, what is next Martians shot JFK?

And...Prehaps you forgot WWII. I would say that was far more of a crisis for the world than the current West vs East media manipulated Civilization War that is happening.

PS. Why did you not post this Conspiracy theory in the Debate forum?

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Originally posted by mochiron
Right on the dot. Red night. Sorry the staement by NZ that " most People" consider the terrorist attacks to be orchestrated by the US government Reeks of conspiracy dung. I mean, what is next Martians shot JFK?

And...Prehaps you forgot WWII. I would say that was far more of a crisis for the world than the current West vs East media manipulated Civilizat ...[text shortened]... ar that is happening.

PS. Why did you not post this Conspiracy theory in the Debate forum?
Because I didn't think it out correctly. It occured to me that my statments would provoke opposition but the overlying intent of my first post was to state a message of hope for the human race, based on my predictions.

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I didn't forget WW2 but like I previously stated; this huge conflict didn't have WMD to pose an armegeddon type threat.

edit: I still can't spell

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Originally posted by NZDrifter
Because I didn't think it out correctly. It occured to me that my statments would provoke opposition but the overlying intent of my first post was to state a message of hope for the human race, based on my predictions.
hope is good. but your predictions sound too much like Conspiracy/Nostrodamous junk. sorry.

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Originally posted by NZDrifter
um... are you calling me a liar?
Well, if you said that the US government engineered 9/11 in order to justify a war in the middle east, then yes, I'd call you a liar.

Oh, and an idiot too.

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Originally posted by NZDrifter
I didn't forget WW2 but like I previously stated; this huge conflict didn't have WMD to pose an armegeddon type threat.

edit: I still can't spell
that said..NZ at least you made the attempt ..good on you..

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soo what are you talking about again?

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Originally posted by mochiron
hope is good. but your predictions sound too much like Conspiracy/Nostrodamous junk. sorry.
Apology accepted. I think that in this *chess players* forum there is a predominance of sceptical, cynical but ruthlessly logical (and rational) minds.

Perhaps the following belongs in the spirituallity section but stuff it. (I like General because my postings dont firmly belong anywhere)

I better qualify this - I BELIEVE THAT - We are here to learn. We are here to evolve. Everything was set in motion to work out.

I KNOW NOTHING.

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Originally posted by mochiron
[b]Right on the dot. Red night. b]
Thanks Mochiron.

One of the problems that I see with the internet and with popular culture (i.e. televison and movies) is that the most ridiculous theories get presented and become the new reality for many members of society.

The entertainment industry has discovered "experts" willing to espouse just about any opinion that will get people to watch.

People watch Braveheart and think they know something about William Wallace. People watch Fox News and think they know what's going on in the world. Dan Brown wrote a couple of seriously flawed novels and everyone thinks they know about the Knights Templar and the Illuminati. The History Channel is passing off rife speculation as fact and hiring Robo-Cop as an "expert." Fox News has Trapper John handing out "professional" investment advice.

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Originally posted by NZDrifter
Apology accepted. I think that in this *chess players* forum there is a predominance of sceptical, cynical but ruthlessly logical (and rational) minds.

Perhaps the following belongs in the spiritually section but stuff it. (I like General because my postings dont firmly belong anywhere)

I better qualify this - I BELIEVE THAT - We are here to learn. We are here to evolve. Everything was set in motion to work out.

I KNOW NOTHING.
NZ ..wasnt an apology.. I lived in Japan too long. Only an observation. Ok you created a debate......

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Originally posted by Red Night
Thanks Mochiron.

One of the problems that I see with the internet and with popular culture (i.e. televison and movies) is that the most ridiculous theories get presented and become the new reality for many members of society.

The entertainment industry has discovered "experts" willing to espouse just about any opinion that will get people to watch. ...[text shortened]... as an "expert." Fox News has Trapper John handing out "professional" investment advice.
Exactly. Too add to that...Consider all the Film and TV that passes as History with that all too Trite and stupid "Based on a TRUE story" yet manipulated to the director's desire to manipulate his audience into thinking this is fact. At this rate We will have people saying That the Jews started the holocost and murdered six million Germans.....? Hello.....! B, Fischer Get a life!