Originally posted by no1marauderUnbelievable. So where would you draw the line if this website was your business? When do the threats become an offense and a detriment to the site? When the one make making the threat has actually gone through with it? That makes perfect sense.
I would regard someone threatening things like that in an internet forum as trivial, yes. I would regard them actually doing it as possibly serious, depending on what exactly they did. KnightWulfe psoted a bunch of our e-mail addresses without our permission from the Medieval Diplomacy game; I asked that the post be removed but not that "something be done" further. Actually hacking would be very serious, the other stuff would depend.
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Originally posted by no1marauderI am not of the opinion that throwing someone off the site (if that is the proper response) for despicable conduct is "more moderation".
You're asking for the Site Admins to "do something" about "threats" of a certain sort in the Forums. How is this NOT asking for more moderation??
Originally posted by darvlayThrowing someone off the site for things they've written in the Forums is moderation to the highest degree. Uber-Moderation as it were. It will lead to a further chilling effect on speech in the Forums. You can believe more moderation is a good thing or you can believe more moderation is a bad thing, but you can't rationally believe that throwing people off the site for what they say isn't "more moderation" when "threats" of this nature have apparently not been a sufficient reason to ban people in the past.
I am not of the opinion that throwing someone off the site (if that is the proper response) for despicable conduct is "more moderation".
Originally posted by darvlayYes, actually it does. Pop Quiz which is the crime:
Unbelievable. So where would you draw the line if this website was your business? When do the threats become an offense and a detriment to the site? When the one make making the threat has actually gone through with it? That makes perfect sense.
1) Saying I'm going to punch you in the mouth;
OR
2) Punching you in the mouth.
Originally posted by no1marauderhypocrite
Throwing someone off the site for things they've written in the Forums is moderation to the highest degree. Uber-Moderation as it were. It will lead to a further chilling effect on speech in the Forums. You can believe more moderation is a good thing or you can believe more moderation is a bad thing, but you can't rationally believe that throwing people ...[text shortened]... s" of this nature have apparently not been a sufficient reason to ban people in the past.
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Throwing someone off the site for things they've written in the Forums is moderation to the highest degree. Uber-Moderation as it were. It will lead to a further chilling effect on speech in the Forums. You can believe more moderation is a good thing or you can believe more moderation is a bad thing, but you can't rationally believe that throwing people ...[text shortened]... s" of this nature have apparently not been a sufficient reason to ban people in the past.
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Originally posted by no1marauderSo if someone said they were going to go around on a killing spree, and you were pretty sure they were serious, you feel it would be fine to ignore it?
Yes, actually it does. Pop Quiz which is the crime:
1) Saying I'm going to punch you in the mouth;
OR
2) Punching you in the mouth.
Of course, I'm sure you would express your outrage if such an event then did come to pass...
Originally posted by no1marauderIsn't it relative to who you're saying it to?
Yes, actually it does. Pop Quiz which is the crime:
1) Saying I'm going to punch you in the mouth;
OR
2) Punching you in the mouth.
For instance:
Saying to an old age pensioner who's just ATM'd her week's pay: "I'm gonna punch you in the mouth." Is quite a hideous crime.
Where as punching you is a form of amusement.
Yet, saying to Darvlay: "I'm going to punch you in the mouth" is satire.
But punching Skeeter is...well....nope. That's not a crime either.
Originally posted by shavixmirIt's true that making a threat of physical violence in order to force someone to do something they don't want to do is a crime; my example did not take such exceptions into account. That's true if there is an immediate intention to do the harm or if a reasonable person is the victim's position would believe there was. I fail to see how either could be true in an internet forum.
Isn't it relative to who you're saying it to?
For instance:
Saying to an old age pensioner who's just ATM'd her week's pay: "I'm gonna punch you in the mouth." Is quite a hideous crime.
Where as punching you is a form of amusement.
Yet, saying to Darvlay: "I'm going to punch you in the mouth" is satire.
But punching Skeeter is...well....nope. That's not a crime either.
Originally posted by welsharnieAre you proposing locking everybody up who makes a threat of any kind? The jails would be pretty full.
So if someone said they were going to go around on a killing spree, and you were pretty sure they were serious, you feel it would be fine to ignore it?
Of course, I'm sure you would express your outrage if such an event then did come to pass...